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Old 10-27-2018, 10:51 AM
 
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I was not posting my own opinion, just the opinion of the atheist who made the video.

My guess is that atheists do not feel deeply connected to the universe. They see themselves as separate and ultimately isolated. They don't have a sense of anything caring about them, except the people they know. And people are not always completely reliable.

I do NOT advocate religion as a way to feel good. My point is that atheists think they are helping the world by crusading against religion, but they are not.

The spiritual aspect of religion is not the cause of conflict and wars. That is caused by the political and dogmatic aspects of organized religions.

Nobody helps when they crusade against any idea. The dogmatic aspects of organized religion are crusaders for their own causes. I believe this is the behavior atheists are trying to counteract.

But I want to address your guess about atheists. I actually felt more connected to the universe when I let go of religion and of the idea that god is present in my daily life. I could finally sleep at night.

 
Old 10-27-2018, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Germany
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According to the video I posted, the benefits are not marginal.
According to papers I have read, they are marginal, especially when compared with the possible negatives. I listed some, and I note you ignored them.

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He also said it is not just because of socializing at church, etc.
Neither did I. I just gave one possible example.

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You could at least watch it before commenting.
I did. That is why I agreed this is a case only in parts of this world. I think you also missed the part where he said it is good if you conform to and accept those beliefs. But you just ignore the people who had more stress because they did NOT believe.
 
Old 10-27-2018, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I never said I was a Christian. There is more than one religion in the world.
The deal remains. Whichever your religion.
 
Old 10-27-2018, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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There is absolutely no reason for you to assume I was complaining about evolution. Absolutely none. I have NEVER EVER said that I don't believe in evolution.
You might as well stop that tactic -- which you use often -- right now. Because not once in my post did I say you believed in evolution.

What I responded to was this statement: "But then again, it will all boil down to Darwin’s theory that the growing kids are indoctrinated with".

I'm beginning to come to the conclusion that you may not be a very honest poster.
 
Old 10-27-2018, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Most young people are taught their parent’s religion. That’s none of your business.
The concept is our business.

But thank you for admitting that a belief in christianity is just based on where you happen to be from. We're making progress.
 
Old 10-27-2018, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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The concept is our business.

But thank you for admitting that a belief in christianity is just based on where you happen to be from. We're making progress.
What I teach my children and grandchildren about religion is none of your business, as long as we’re not breaking the law. You have no right to interfere.
 
Old 10-27-2018, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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What I teach my children and grandchildren about religion is none of your business, as long as we’re not breaking the law. You have no right to interfere.
I'm going to repeat it again. The concept is everybody's business, and it's why we are able to discuss it in this forum.

This is freedom of speech and freedom of thought.
 
Old 10-27-2018, 12:06 PM
 
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religion isn't the problem. people thinking that they need to force other people to believe what they believe is the problem. weather its fundy theist demanding tiths to be saved or deny everything socialist taking from people to force their moral code.

anti-gay is an example on the theist and on the other side, letting 10,000 people cross the border and taking resources from Americans to pay for them are two great example of the two sicko ends of the human boob stick.

as long as the milli-mental atheist and fundy-mental theist decide our morals there will always be war.


jokers to the left
clowns to the right
here I am again, screwed in the middle with you.
 
Old 10-27-2018, 12:13 PM
 
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What I teach my children and grandchildren about religion is none of your business, as long as we’re not breaking the law. You have no right to interfere.
yes and no jimmie.

when we dismiss the process on how to form a rational, self-correcting, belief system based on "blind faith" and "mystery", it is a serious problem. "blind faith" is what got us into this mess. basically blind faith states "dismiss common sense and what you know".

thats a problem
 
Old 10-27-2018, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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yes and no jimmie.

when we dismiss the process on how to form a rational, self-correcting, belief system based on "blind faith" and "mystery", it is a serious problem. "blind faith" is what got us into this mess. basically blind faith states "dismiss common sense and what you know".

thats a problem
Still, none of your business.
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