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Old Today, 03:13 AM
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The reason they were part of the 1% does not change the fact that they were. You can be offended but it does not change reality.

Also the circumstances in Germany were unique because alot of German people were extremely industrious and intellegent and were still getting the short end of the stick. Its not like the Jews were some ultra hardworking responsible segment of society while everyone else was out doing meth and smoking weed.
A book I read last summer, Why the Germans? Why the Jews?: Envy, Race Hatred, and the Prehistory of the Holocaust by Aly, Götz, a non_jewish writer, highlighted the history of Germany and its Jews, and especially the reasons that a seemingly advance and educated country would go on to foment one of the world's worst atrocities. gist of it is that education was slow to take its place among German values and the non-Jewish Germans were laggards in becoming active learners. Also, "German" culture and tradition was, if not nonexistent, quite weak. To some extent, Wagner and Hitler developed the myth of the "volk" out of whole cloth. The Jews' richness in such tradition stood in stark contrast.

Question, why do you hate Jews?

 
Old Today, 03:47 AM
 
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A book I read last summer, Why the Germans? Why the Jews?: Envy, Race Hatred, and the Prehistory of the Holocaust by Aly, Götz, a non_jewish writer, highlighted the history of Germany and its Jews, and especially the reasons that a seemingly advance and educated country would go on to foment one of the world's worst atrocities. gist of it is that education was slow to take its place among German values and the non-Jewish Germans were laggards in becoming active learners. Also, "German" culture and tradition was, if not nonexistent, quite weak. To some extent, Wagner and Hitler developed the myth of the "volk" out of whole cloth. The Jews' richness in such tradition stood in stark contrast.

Question, why do you hate Jews?
I dont, many great thinkers and scientists were jewish. I hate greed and most banks are greedy and opportunistic, and at the time in Germany many were jewish. But the fact they were jewish was irrelevant, its the fact they were a segment of jews who were greedy and opportunistic and should have been sent to death camps.

Germans were not uneducated dolts, the amount of technology, science and medical tech that came out of Germany was unprecedented, many of these scientists and engineers were not jewish (had they not made this a jewish issue and instead a greedy opportunistic banker issue) they would have retained much more of their talent and probably developed the nuke first and won the war.

Try reading what I write.
 
Old Today, 04:04 AM
 
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Almost all hate is directed at Others. Jews are Others. Blacks are Others. Goths are Others. Pretty much anybody and everybody is an Other - depending on mindset/upbringing/education/geography. And some people are taught to direct their hatred at specific Others, so they become specialists, of a sad and sometimes dangerous, sort.

It's a subject worthy of discussion in this forum.
And non-Jews are others to Jews. They have slurs for non-Jews. It's not only the majorities that see minorities as others.

All of us are captive a bit to our survival DNA which says to stick with one's own/known.
 
Old Today, 04:11 AM
 
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God is not confused about his own religion, tell me what other people have ever follwed God's recorded religion? Cristianity does practice God's religion, Christians have always been against anyone keeping God's religion.
Did you mean to say that Christianity does not practice God's religion? I think we do, but then I am not a person who is feeling exclusive about anything. Feeling that we do for me doesn't mean that other's do not.
 
Old Today, 05:10 AM
 
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I dont, many great thinkers and scientists were jewish. I hate greed and most banks are greedy and opportunistic, and at the time in Germany many were jewish. But the fact they were jewish was irrelevant, its the fact they were a segment of jews who were greedy and opportunistic and should have been sent to death camps.
So the other 60% in Saxony (as an example) who were not Jews should have also gone to the death camps? I am talking about the richest people in Saxony, Germany, where 40% of the richest were Jewish. And how do you know they were greedy and opportunistic?

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Try reading what I write.
I would rather not. I find the idea of death camps and Nazis make me feel sick.
 
Old Today, 05:39 AM
 
Location: NJ
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its the fact they were a segment of jews who were greedy and opportunistic and should have been sent to death camps.
The fact that you wrote this troubles me. The claim that any group or any people SHOULD have been sent to death camps is problematic.
 
Old Today, 06:09 AM
 
Location: WV and Eastport, ME
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I dont, many great thinkers and scientists were jewish. I hate greed and most banks are greedy and opportunistic, and at the time in Germany many were jewish. But the fact they were jewish was irrelevant, its the fact they were a segment of jews who were greedy and opportunistic and should have been sent to death camps.

Germans were not uneducated dolts, the amount of technology, science and medical tech that came out of Germany was unprecedented, many of these scientists and engineers were not jewish (had they not made this a jewish issue and instead a greedy opportunistic banker issue) they would have retained much more of their talent and probably developed the nuke first and won the war.

Try reading what I write.
I think saying ANYBODY "should have been sent to death camps" is so reprehensible that we're not going to have any more of this.

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