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I would like to hear others on this...the gentle, mother dear with a "Bambi" and the mountain lion.
(I'm not taking sides, btw.)
Miss Hepburn! Mountain lions and Bambi! Really!
Amazingly, This last Tuesday around 4 am, I witnessed a pride of mountain lions walking alongside the interstate. They were majestic! No offense to the deer. I was on the lookout for deers, but when I saw that tail! And then the family! They were not afraid of headlights; of course, I didn't stop or slow down to properly test this theory. I don't think any hitchhikers have anything to worry about but for Bambi and the Hare, it's a different story.
moutainrose and gabfest....this is what I had in mind when I made the thread..to 'get to the bottom' of the 'God thing'.
Good points, both of you!
Sure, there would be valid answers like ego, greed, (mine is colossal insensitivity to others), governments, etc...
but, 'How does this relate to a Creator/God'?
Is it His fault He created us, BUT then gave us the free will to do most anything?
The constant blaming of God vs He is a loving God, hmm.
I should have said that in the OP...what was I thinking!!!? But it's all good.
Thank you both.
Good point is: the cat and mouse situation...or the leopard and gentle, vegetarian antelope I see
on the Sunday morning Nature shows 'evil'?
Is God to blame for that and the suffering in African countries.* If so,
how are we to live with that reality... In anger or do we delve deeper into the Mind of God for 'why'?
Is God like a cutter, a self-destructive Being? Yet, why is any person self destructive?
What's at the bottom of that? Is that a microcosm of this God?
*I was reminded again watching the movie 'Bohemian Rhapsody' and being
reminded of LIVE AID in '85.
Excellent questions and food for thought!
I am 67, and I came out of the womb with existential angst — my first memories are of these types of questions — How did I get here? Why are we here? What’s the point of all this? Is there a god that created me, and for what purpose?
From an early age I always knew there was some sort of divine creative intelligence behind all this, and I am comfortable with using the word “god”.. I must have inherited the “god gene” ?
Having spent a lifetime grappling with the nature of god and our relation to it and all the questions that surround a spiritual inclination and curiosity, I’ve finally found peace and deep humility in just total surrender to the mystery of it all. There are some things we just don’t get to know in our limitations as humans......
But I do still find interest in what others have come to understand in this miraculous adventure called “life” that we get born into.
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Regarding and clarifying my statement on a cat that clearly enjoys torturing a mouse, (not just eating it for hunger) — I do not equate that with premeditated human evilness, but again, it’s the LEVEL of cruelty that’s here that is so disturbing to me. And where I can’t reconcile it with biblical teachings that blame Adam and Eve or the fall of mankind.
Regarding and clarifying my statement on a cat that clearly enjoys torturing a mouse, (not just eating it for hunger) — I do not equate that with premeditated human evilness, but again, it’s the LEVEL of cruelty that’s here that is so disturbing to me. And where I can’t reconcile it with biblical teachings that blame Adam and Eve or the fall of mankind.
After the fall of man anything goes...the creation is no longer perfect.
Seven billion people or not people are starving , have no clean water or homeless because of selfishness, and wealth which is ruled by demonic spirits of the world were people are puppets with this demons who care not to help ........ And then there is God over here will say ` What do you want me to do ``..........
WEll god. How about making it rain in Africa so that people can grow their own food?
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Originally Posted by gabfest
After the fall of man anything goes...the creation is no longer perfect.
If man 'fell' then he wasn't perfect in the first place.
After the fall of man anything goes...the creation is no longer perfect.
But if God is the creator of everything. the alpha the omega as the Bible teaches, then how can that be a loving God that would knowingly create this scenario, this possibility, with this LEVEL of suffering and evilness?
(I’m trying to see how others like myself who believe in a God reconcile the LEVEL of suffering and evilness here and still believe in a loving God) I am not attached to any belief system or religion but just the simple belief in a divine mysterious creator behind all this.
But if God is the creator of everything. the alpha the omega as the Bible teaches, then how can that be a loving God that would knowingly create this scenario, this possibility, with this LEVEL of suffering and evilness?
I am 67, and I came out of the womb with existential angst — my first memories are of these types of questions — How did I get here? Why are we here? What’s the point of all this? Is there a god that created me, and for what purpose?
From an early age I always knew there was some sort of divine creative intelligence behind all this, and I am comfortable with using the word “god”.. I must have inherited the “god gene” ?
Having spent a lifetime grappling with the nature of god and our relation to it and all the questions that surround a spiritual inclination and curiosity, I’ve finally found peace and deep humility in just total surrender to the mystery of it all. There are some things we just don’t get to know in our limitations as humans......
But I do still find interest in what others have come to understand in this miraculous adventure called “life” that we get born into.
Hysterical! the angst! LOL! I love reading how your mind works. btw.
At a very young age in the quiet chirps of the summer country side...I experienced that 'Knower' or 'Awareness' looking out of my eyes...(as a 4 yr old...it was a wise an 'adult' Presence within me,
not me, per se)As a child, I was to have many more 'supernatural' mind blowing,
expansive altered states given to me.
As an adult meditating for hours a sitting...even MORE!
Things are not a mystery anymore...but, do I have a desire to convince others of what i have 'seen'? Sometimes...then, I realize why bother..just talk with others that have known them.
You know how that first under a 4 min mile happened and once that was realized others were able to break through that' imaginary limitation'?
Well, I read something that made my mouth drop, around 2007 maybe in Jeremiah...''but he who does boast, let him boast of this, that he knows and understands me, so saith the Lord...''
Huh? We can know and understand You?!!! And my direction changed to do just that.
I was more successful than I could have ever known...or imagined to ask for!!!!
Why am I talking to you like this? Don't surrender to the mystery...there is no mystery.
Climb that mountain...all can be known...I mean it.
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But it's all good.
