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The notion itself is wrong, IMO.
When someone makes a "CLAIM" then probably yes, they should have an evidence.
Believing in the existing of God is *NOT* a claim. It's a belief based on faith. And faith does not require evidence.
Kindly rethink your strategy of countering this scenario.
Also, the OP and myself did not make any CLAIM - they simply asked a question whether God exist or not?
And I did NOT tell them that "Yes God exists" - I simply asked them to do their own research and find their own answers.
Not sure how hard is it to understand how unfair of an answer I gave to OP?
You are acting out a pretence of bing short -sighted. You are smarter that that.
The Op asks a question. We atheists say "There is no reason to believe in one. Life evidently is a recycle process and individual organisms cease to exist in (or after death). Question answered.
That is indeed a claim which we justify by the lack of any good reason to believe in a god, the evidence of growth and death and dissipation of all living things, and the lack of decent evidence of anything after death.
You say 'No. There is more.' (if you say nothing, then you wouldn't be here arguing) and that is a Claim. The burden of proof is now on you to present Your evidence.
So far as i can recall, you have presented none. You method has always been to try to trip us up with some trick or subterfuge. Like the one you pulled here. Including the one telling 'them' to do their own research. Which is a very, VERY old theistic ploy of telling us to go and find your evidence for you. If you have a case to make, make it. It is not -and has never been - our job to find your evidence for you.
What about 2,000 + years of men ignoring God's Golden Rule as per Leviticus 19:18:B.
It is Not Scripture as Jesus taught, but men ignoring what Jesus taught.
So, what has failed in Not the teachings of Jesus, but men not keeping those teachings - Matthew 26:52.
Thus, it is No wonder Jesus taught his true followers would be hated by the nations at Matthew 10:22.
Men's epic failure is why we are all invited to pray the invitation of Rev. 22:20 for Jesus to come !
Come Lord Jesus and bring ' healing ' to earth's nations as mentioned at Rev. 22:2.
People understand what common decency is. No religion required to understand this.
I find it ridiculous that you think your god is the only way people can learn how to behave.
Your god and the religion that pushes this god is and has been a huge failure on this earth since it's invention.
It's nice to see secular nations have much more civilized societies than than non-secular nations. Proves the point that religion is not required for humans to live by common decency standards and innate morality.
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People understand what common decency is. No religion required to understand this.
I find it ridiculous that you think your god is the only way people can learn how to behave.
Your god and the religion that pushes this god is and has been a huge failure on this earth since it's invention.
It's nice to see non-secular nations have much more civilized societies than than secular nations. Proves the point that religion is not required for humans to live by common decency standards and innate morality.
It's human nature to make posting mistakes. People who make a big deal out of it are the ones who need to take a step back and ask themselves what do they get out of it?
It's human nature to make posting mistakes. People who make a big deal out of it are the ones who need to take a step back and ask themselves what do they get out of it?
However religion tends to delude it's followers into believing otherwise.
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