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Old 01-09-2019, 03:37 PM
 
Location: The Eastern Shore
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Which one of your family members has offered eternal life to you? Which one created all things so that you could enjoy life with many varieties? We owe God-100%. So do our family members. Lots wife was turned to salt in an instant. Lot stood for God.

Prove that your particular version of God did so, and we will talk. Until then, you are simply justifying being an arrogant, ignorant, and terrible person.

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Along with 1Corinthians 6"9-11,, Galations 5:19-21 and false god worship and partaking off the table of demons= 99% on earth. 0 have the right to pass judgement.
I have the absolute right to pass judgment on people who are too stupid to go to the police if someone in their family is a child molester.


You guys seriously need help, man... The collective IQ's at a JW event is probably lower than my son's 1st grade classroom. Even he knows to tell someone in charge if something bad is going on.
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Old 01-09-2019, 04:51 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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Prove that your particular version of God did so, and we will talk. Until then, you are simply justifying being an arrogant, ignorant, and terrible person.



I have the absolute right to pass judgment on people who are too stupid to go to the police if someone in their family is a child molester.


You guys seriously need help, man... The collective IQ's at a JW event is probably lower than my son's 1st grade classroom. Even he knows to tell someone in charge if something bad is going on.
It's not stupidity that keeps them from going. For one thing the Watchtower tells the congregation that the whole world is watching them and if one of the members is accused of something like this it will reflect horribly on Jehovah. These people are largely isolated socially so they don't know most people could care less about the group. The "secular authorities" are also in the clutches of Satan while the Watchtower is God's only organization on earth. If that was your mindset who would you want to handle the situation? Satan or God? Plus there is the matter of proof. There either needs to be a confession or a witness besides the victim to the crime for it to be considered Biblically actionable. In light of how they interpret that mandate it would be going against God's Word to proceed legally.

Another practice that helps pedophiles is that the accusation usually must be made in a closed meeting of the victim, 3 elders (all men) and the accused. That is unless the accused is an elder then it can be the victim, 2 elders, and the accused. It is often first determined if the victim did anything to entice the pedo and then the victim needs to describe in detail what happened right in front of the pedo.

The cTongrgation is also unlikely to believe the victim was innocent especially if thatThe congreT
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Old 01-09-2019, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Willamette Valley, Oregon
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Which one of your family members has offered eternal life to you? Which one created all things so that you could enjoy life with many varieties? We owe God-100%. So do our family members. Lots wife was turned to salt in an instant. Lot stood for God.

Along with 1Corinthians 6"9-11,, Galations 5:19-21 and false god worship and partaking off the table of demons= 99% on earth. 0 have the right to pass judgement.

Did you learn 1Corinthians from Donald Trump? He said 2Corinthinans. I believe it should be correctly stated as 1st Corinthians and 2nd Corinthians.



Just sayin.....
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Old 01-10-2019, 07:29 AM
 
Location: The Eastern Shore
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It's not stupidity that keeps them from going. For one thing the Watchtower tells the congregation that the whole world is watching them and if one of the members is accused of something like this it will reflect horribly on Jehovah. These people are largely isolated socially so they don't know most people could care less about the group. The "secular authorities" are also in the clutches of Satan while the Watchtower is God's only organization on earth. If that was your mindset who would you want to handle the situation? Satan or God? Plus there is the matter of proof. There either needs to be a confession or a witness besides the victim to the crime for it to be considered Biblically actionable. In light of how they interpret that mandate it would be going against God's Word to proceed legally.

Another practice that helps pedophiles is that the accusation usually must be made in a closed meeting of the victim, 3 elders (all men) and the accused. That is unless the accused is an elder then it can be the victim, 2 elders, and the accused. It is often first determined if the victim did anything to entice the pedo and then the victim needs to describe in detail what happened right in front of the pedo.

The cTongrgation is also unlikely to believe the victim was innocent especially if thatThe congreT
I mean no offense here, but that sounds a LOT like stupidity... Stupidity is stupidity, even if they don't realize it. If someone is diddling my kid, and the God I believe in is doing nothing to stop it, either I will, or the authorities will. My kid is more important than how a church looks.... If your kid is less important than your churches image, you are an idiot who should never have had children in the first place, and should have them taken from you. If you believe in a God who thinks his churches image is more important than keeping a child from being molested (because even if the church stops it in this case, and kicks the person to the curb, he could just do it again to another child since they didn't go to the police....), you are an idiot with a very low IQ, or exactly ZERO empathy for others. Period. That's a full stop for me, L8.


People like this make me physically ill. They are the dumbest of the dumb.
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Old 01-10-2019, 01:17 PM
 
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Prove that your particular version of God did so, and we will talk. Until then, you are simply justifying being an arrogant, ignorant, and terrible person.



I have the absolute right to pass judgment on people who are too stupid to go to the police if someone in their family is a child molester.


You guys seriously need help, man... The collective IQ's at a JW event is probably lower than my son's 1st grade classroom. Even he knows to tell someone in charge if something bad is going on.

All real servants of God knows he hopes--forgiveness is applied. So you judge against Gods will in your darkness. From a little mortal viewpoint that resides in darkness, handed down to those first graders from their parents.

Which is worse--a child touched or spikes being driven through the flesh of the son of God to kill him? Jesus answered---Forgive them Father, they know not what they do. True followers know how to forgive, because they know 100% --that their sin is no lesser than their brothers sins to Gods view. Don't you want to be forgiven--then you must forgive.
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Old 01-10-2019, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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All real servants of God knows he hopes--forgiveness is applied. So you judge against Gods will in your darkness. From a little mortal viewpoint that resides in darkness, handed down to those first graders from their parents.

Which is worse--a child touched or spikes being driven through the flesh of the son of God to kill him? Jesus answered---Forgive them Father, they know not what they do. True followers know how to forgive, because they know 100% --that their sin is no lesser than their brothers sins to Gods view. Don't you want to be forgiven--then you must forgive.
You and the organization you represent are spiritually and morally bankrupt.
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Old 01-10-2019, 07:58 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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All real servants of God knows he hopes--forgiveness is applied. So you judge against Gods will in your darkness. From a little mortal viewpoint that resides in darkness, handed down to those first graders from their parents.

Which is worse--a child touched or spikes being driven through the flesh of the son of God to kill him? Jesus answered---Forgive them Father, they know not what they do. True followers know how to forgive, because they know 100% --that their sin is no lesser than their brothers sins to Gods view. Don't you want to be forgiven--then you must forgive.
This poster is a Jehovah"s Witness and this is part of the attitude that helps pedophiles prey on children within the congregation. Even if there is a second witness to the abuse and the person is KNOWN as having committed the crime the very thought of going to the "secular authorities" makes the victim or their families out to be the wrong doers.
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Old 01-10-2019, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Willamette Valley, Oregon
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All real servants of God knows he hopes--forgiveness is applied. So you judge against Gods will in your darkness. From a little mortal viewpoint that resides in darkness, handed down to those first graders from their parents.

Which is worse--a child touched or spikes being driven through the flesh of the son of God to kill him? Jesus answered---Forgive them Father, they know not what they do. True followers know how to forgive, because they know 100% --that their sin is no lesser than their brothers sins to Gods view. Don't you want to be forgiven--then you must forgive.

This is a disgusting post. A child being touched versus the alleged son of god having spikes driven through his hands. Are you kidding me? Jesus was no innocent. A child is totally innocent. How dare you compare the two?


Big fail on that one.
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Old 01-10-2019, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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This poster is a Jehovah"s Witness and this is part of the attitude that helps pedophiles prey on children within the congregation. Even if there is a second witness to the abuse and the person is KNOWN as having committed the crime the very thought of going to the "secular authorities" makes the victim or their families out to be the wrong doers.
It's disgusting. And thanks to you and other brave "apostates" the true rot at the core of this organization is becoming known.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:03 AM
 
Location: The Eastern Shore
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This poster is a Jehovah"s Witness and this is part of the attitude that helps pedophiles prey on children within the congregation. Even if there is a second witness to the abuse and the person is KNOWN as having committed the crime the very thought of going to the "secular authorities" makes the victim or their families out to be the wrong doers.
Yes, stupidity at its finest.... Which was my point. Their world is nothing but black and white. Kids being diddled by their members? Who cares? Jesus was nailed to a cross!!!


kjw, you just proved that JW's are free to molest kids in their congregation, because you guys simply don't care. You just "forgive" them and move on. While they keep diddling kids because you did nothing. Moderator cut: We don't want to call any one poster or entire religion names. Any God that would let you into its kingdom is a God any thinking man/woman would want no part of. You can have it. I don't want to live for eternity with kiddie diddlers being treated the same as everyone else.

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