If religion made sense (atheist, gospels, worship, religions)

[Harry Diogenes]

Originally Posted by BaptistFundie

Can't read your comment, but a reasonable response would probably be that you still wouldn't believe. You've made up your mind, and don't really care about what makes sense.

The usual unreasonable excuse. We have 'made up our mind' because we do care about what makes sense. The different Christianities do not.

[Harry Diogenes]

Originally Posted by GoCardinals

What makes sense to you may not make sense to someone else, and vice a versa.
This is how we are - 7 Billion of us.

For example, it may make perfect sense to you but it does not make sense to me to think that the entire universe and everything in it, came together all by itself.

Yet that almost 7 billion can not agree on which religion makes sense. Otherwise there would only be one religion.

[elyn02]

Originally Posted by gabfest

Thus you've always existed in some state? at least to this point in time?

Gosh no. I would never make it during the Carboniferous period unless there was a Publix supermarket nearby.

[Harry Diogenes]

Originally Posted by GoCardinals

So what would you like to have instead?

Everyone would have been born a believer with no choice, and no ability to reason?

Why would they not be able to reason?

As to the choice, at least it would prevent a large number of souls being torture for eternity (if your god actually existed).

[Harry Diogenes]

Originally Posted by TroutDude

How about a religion that makes sense? Let's call it Nicetism. Nicetists consider empathy and compassion to be the highest of human qualities and strive to care for the less fortunate, even at some cost to themselves, both in time and money. Their "niceness" extends to animals and other living things* as well.

They believe that being nice brings its own rewards in this life and the next life, if there is one, will probably also be nice.

No judgmental god-thing. No hell-threat. No arcane rules and rituals. No need to accept on faith, that which cannot be known. Just caring for each other and the planet because to do otherwise makes no sense at all.




*Except, of course, fundies and mosquitoes.

Nicetism? Whales that go Ni?

[gabfest]

Originally Posted by elyn02

Gosh no. I would never make it during the Carboniferous period unless there was a Publix supermarket nearby.

At what point in time did you come into existence? The father carries the spermatozoa. Spermatozoa carry spermatozoa.

[Harry Diogenes]

Originally Posted by jimmiej

The creator of anything is always greater than the created.

Not only does your assertion lack evidence, if true, it would make your god most improbable.

[Harry Diogenes]

Originally Posted by jimmiej

An acorn comes from an oak tree which comes from an acorn and so on. Neither creates the other. Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Try again.

Snow flakes.

[Harry Diogenes]

Originally Posted by GoCardinals

I have absolutely no problem in sticking with faith when it comes to who created it?

And in my understanding, you are sticking with faith as well when you say, “It was not God”, because you don’t have an evidence either.

We all are sticking with the faith in this matter - we don’t really know and we don’t have an evidence.

Except we do. Using probability, we can come to a probable solution for a god, and an even more probable solution for God with a capital 'G'.

We also have Christian arguments, many actually proving their version of their god can not exist.

And logically, it there is no evidence for the positive claim, then the odds are that the positive claim is false.

[Harry Diogenes]

Originally Posted by gabfest

I've never declared anything happened according to a predetermined plan.

Right now, we're trying to figure when one comes into existence or if they've always existed.

I came into existence a few hours after my parents had sex. The parts that I am made of came into existence with the universe.