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Old 11-15-2018, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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And why would we even consider that?
Try thinking about it.
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Old 11-15-2018, 11:16 AM
 
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Or maybe that yearning was put there by our creator.
kind of like the yearning for LOVE between two people?
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Old 11-15-2018, 11:19 AM
 
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Yet, most believe in some sort of higher being/creator. What causes humans to reach to the heavens?
yet, you say only your interpretation of a higher being/ creator is correct?
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Old 11-15-2018, 11:20 AM
 
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kind of like the yearning for LOVE between two people?
It doesn't necessarliy have to be between two humans...
https://youtu.be/NJdIHIdvwg8
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Old 11-15-2018, 11:49 AM
 
Location: City-Data Forum
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It would make more sense that a creator would be observable and more interactive if it has a plan and expectations of us. “Freewill†could still be a factor, yet threats and a hell would not. Doesn’t make sense for a parent to give birth then leave a child to suffer with no guidance. It also makes no sense to allow his child to slaughter each other.
Unless you assume that a book, ancestors, and some current people are plenty of guidance
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Old 11-15-2018, 11:55 AM
 
Location: City-Data Forum
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How about a religion that makes sense? Let's call it Nicetism. Nicetists consider empathy and compassion to be the highest of human qualities and strive to care for the less fortunate, even at some cost to themselves, both in time and money. Their "niceness" extends to animals and other living things* as well.

They believe that being nice brings its own rewards in this life and the next life, if there is one, will probably also be nice.

No judgmental god-thing. No hell-threat. No arcane rules and rituals. No need to accept on faith, that which cannot be known. Just caring for each other and the planet because to do otherwise makes no sense at all.




*Except, of course, fundies and mosquitoes.
They are killed off and don't spread fast, only the hypocritical religions are able to survive (with their denominational buffers or subculture buffers through the range of freedom of belief for leaders) as they can do whatever they see fit whenever they see fit to it. They also don't spread fast because they don't rely on psychological and sociological manipulation tactics such as imagined "ultimate" carrots and sticks, guilt-tripping, candy-coating, confidence-boosting, bonding-rituals, common enemies, etc.
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Old 11-15-2018, 12:01 PM
 
Location: USA
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Unless you assume that a book, ancestors, and some current people are plenty of guidance

You do remember what assuming does to you and me... right? After all we are talking about a book written by ancient ignorant superstitious people, our ancient ignorant superstitious ancestors, and current people who also happen to believe that ghosts and demons are real. Know anyone like that?
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Old 11-15-2018, 12:05 PM
 
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You do remember what assuming does to you and me... right? After all we are talking about a book written by ancient ignorant superstitious people, our ancient ignorant superstitious ancestors, and current people who also happen to believe that ghosts and demons are real. Know anyone like that?
Yes, people who obsess about those sorts of things all day though they say it's not relevant to them.
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Old 11-15-2018, 12:07 PM
 
Location: City-Data Forum
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It exists in different or various states.

To Believe God has always existed you must believe you've always existed... and evidently, you have in some state or another because we can see you.
That's like saying that the river Nile always existed because it's different components always existed in some state or another.

In fact, there might be a little bit of the Nile in you!

A++ , The Buddha was there while "the Creator" was eternally frozen doing nothing for an eternity before starting to do something. Fantastically and Supernaturally and Superlogically enough, the Buddha was the one that "instigated" the eternal single and infinitely plural and complete zero-sum Being into creating that which is good. Sadly, the "good freedom" that the Buddha gave this "Creator" meant that it would create evil, fallibility, and calamity as well. Go figure, the Universe can have such mysterious explanations, some of which I like and I am comfortable with and others which I am forced to believe by right of explanation, evidence, and facts. Always have to choose that Greater Vision, though.
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Old 11-15-2018, 12:09 PM
 
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That's like saying that the river Nile always existed because it's different components always existed in some state or another.
In physics, a state of matter is one of the distinct forms in which matter can exist. Four states of matter are observable in everyday life: solid, liquid, gas, and plasma. Wikipedia
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