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Old 11-29-2018, 11:37 AM
 
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An alarming trend was revealed yesterday. Despite medical advances and lower deaths by heart disease and cancer, the US life expectancy dropped after years and years of going up. Suicide is a big part of the problem, and the suicide rate has now hit a 50 year high.

https://www.al.com/news/2018/11/us-s...xpectancy.html


This is the world atheism and secularism as created. More division, more hopeless, more conflict, less tolerance and less empathy. People have bought into the lie that there is no God, and no purpose to live. We are merely souless flesh and bone here to consume resources then die and rot. The vast majority of us will be completely forgotten from the next generations that get their turn at living.

And the research has shown a direct link between atheism and suicide.

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Religiously unaffiliated subjects had significantly more lifetime suicide attempts and more first-degree relatives who committed suicide than subjects who endorsed a religious affiliation. Unaffiliated subjects were younger, less often married, less often had children, and had less contact with family members. Furthermore, subjects with no religious affiliation perceived fewer reasons for living, particularly fewer moral objections to suicide. In terms of clinical characteristics, religiously unaffiliated subjects had more lifetime impulsivity, aggression, and past substance use disorder.
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Religious affiliation is associated with less suicidal behavior in depressed inpatients.
https://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi...jp.161.12.2303


That's the bed you made, so now you can get to lie in it. It is just sad that atheists dedicate so much time out of the few short decades we get in life into tearing down an institution that gives hope and healing to the masses.
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Old 11-29-2018, 11:42 AM
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Have you not endured enough ridicule, jeff? Masochism is NOT a virtue.
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Old 11-29-2018, 11:58 AM
 
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Have you not endured enough ridicule, jeff? Masochism is NOT a virtue.
Couldn't even make it to post #2 without turning it into a personal assault. Pathetic.

I'm sorry you don't like facts.
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Old 11-29-2018, 12:06 PM
 
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Couldn't even make it to post #2 without turning it into a personal assault. Pathetic.

I'm sorry you don't like facts.
You like facts, jeff? Here's a fact:

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Sadly, suicide occurs among Christians at essentially the same rate as non-Christians.
https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct...of-christ.html
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Old 11-29-2018, 12:07 PM
 
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Hsieh found that although religion is linked to lower suicide rates in Latin America, eastern Europe, northern Europe, and English-speaking countries, it is associated with higher suicide rates in East Asia, western Europe and southern Europe.

A Michigan State University sociologist reports in The Journal of Health and Social Behavior that religious participation affects suicide rates differently around the world, and in Latin America particularly, high religious involvement is associated with low suicide rates.

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Statistics for the United States generally follow with the statistics for Latin America, although the link between religious participation and low suicide rates is not as pronounced in the United States. The researcher, Ning Hsieh, acknowledged there could be other factors affecting suicide rates. However, she offered a hypothesis about the results, focusing on the different relationships in each region between religion and community.


NEW STUDY SUGGESTS RELIGION AFFECTS SUICIDE RATES DIFFERENTLY AROUND THE WORLD
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Old 11-29-2018, 12:10 PM
 
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from jeffies article--


Some of this difference may be due to under-reporting in religious countries because of concerns over stigma. Yet, some of the difference may be real, although it is not known whether the negative association between religion and suicide is due to its integrative benefits (such as social cohesion, as proposed by Durkheim in 1951) or to the moral imperatives of religious belief, given its prohibitions against suicidal behavior.
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Old 11-29-2018, 12:11 PM
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If fewer believers off themselves it's because they're afraid their omni-loving, merciful god will toast them for eternity.
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Old 11-29-2018, 12:13 PM
 
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religious people have fewer attempts, they do it throughly the first time, no second attempt needed...

non religious people hesitate and might need a second or third attempt

suicide rates are equal, the attempt rate is not
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Old 11-29-2018, 12:32 PM
 
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Yet another post by Jeff accusing atheists of being harmful, mean or immoral. If suicide rates are also up among Christians, why accuse atheists of being responsible? I'm just waiting for a post by him "scientists discover new species of fish" and for him to post it as more proof atheists hate Christians. ☺

Jeff, we get it, you do not like us at all but this is not the first thread you started accusing atheism as a cause for increase rate of suicide. Life expectancy in Canada and other developed countries less religious than yours still are rising and are higher than that of the US but I would never make an unfounded claim that atheism is the cause of that. The fall of good paying jobs, the extreme polarizing of your country, inadequate access to good healthcare, poverty, increase need for being mobile for jobs, ptsd, higher infant mortality all are factors. Cuba life expectancy is almost the same as the US and Canada is 3 years longer.

Sorry but the facts don't back up your assumotions, again. But then again, facts also hate Bible believing Christians. 😁
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Old 11-29-2018, 12:36 PM
 
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"And the research has shown a direct link between atheism and suicide." Does the research show higher suicide rates among LGBTQ youth because of harassment by evangelicals?
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