The Bible Codes (past, present and future recorded in the Bible) (hell, church)

[gsoboi]

Originally Posted by coosjoaquin

heres something interesting i found while looking for bible code stuff

The Bible Code

The person uses English text and I question how he arranged those letters in the matrix to come up with those things

[coosjoaquin]

Originally Posted by gsoboi

The person uses English text and I question how he arranged those letters in the matrix to come up with those things

he uses some hebrew but thats not the point. The point is rather that you can use any arrangement to get what you want. Is it really that hard to understand?

question how he arranged those letters in the matrix to come up with those things

This bit in particular makes me want to bang my head against the wall for obvious reasons

¿Seriously haven´t you come accross the GIGO principle?

[gsoboi]

Originally Posted by coosjoaquin

he uses some hebrew but thats not the point. The point is rather that you can use any arrangement to get what you want. Is it really that hard to understand?


This bit in particular makes me want to bang my head against the wall for obvious reasons

¿Seriously haven´t you come accross the GIGO principle?

show me any book other than the Bible that has SO many codes relateing to the 911 attacks

[accelerator]

Is this story of a "miracle" encrypted.. ?

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"And when he got aboard a boat, his disciples followed him. Now, look! a great agitation arose in the sea, so that the boat was being covered by the waves; he, however, was sleeping. And they came and woke him up, saying: "Lord, save us, we are about to perish! "But he said to them: "Why are you fainthearted, you with little faith?" Then, getting up, He rebuked the winds and the sea, and a calm set in. So the men became amazed and said: "What sort of person is this, that even the winds and the sea obey him?" - Matthew 8:23


Does this account contain information that is concealed from the casual reader.. ?

If so.. how would we go about cracking it.. and discovering what it really means.. ?

Is there much more to it.. than meets the eye.. ?

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"And for you men the vision of everything becomes like the words of the book that has been sealed up, which they give to someone knowing the writing, saying: "Read this out loud, please," and he has to say: "I am unable for it is sealed up."

Isaiah 29:9

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[Miss Blue]

I could never understand why some of the people who say the books of the bible are the words of God and are to be taken literally, and not added to nor taken away..Then they proceed to claim the books are written in a mysterious code that only a few(Namely themselves) are gifted enough to understand..I wonder if the people who believe this also believe that Dan Brown's "DaVinci Code" is fact..

[Campbell34]

Originally Posted by blue62

I could never understand why some of the people who say the books of the bible are the words of God and are to be taken literally, and not added to nor taken away..Then they proceed to claim the books are written in a mysterious code that only a few(Namely themselves) are gifted enough to understand..I wonder if the people who believe this also believe that Dan Brown's "DaVinci Code" is fact..

I have a tape on the Bible codes that was produced in the year 1999. At the end of the tape it stated that the Bible code stated there would be a terrorist attack on New York City shortly after the year 2000. Dan Brown's "DaVinci Code" did not reveal this to me, yet the Bible code did. The Bible was always a Book that speaks of the future, and that is one of the reasons God said we needed to study His Word. I find most people here who oppose the Bible, are also the same one's who have a problem believeing facts, especially when those facts confirm the Bible.

It does not require a gifted person to study the Bible, only a willing one.

[MontanaGuy]

Campbell34 wrote:

I have a tape on the Bible codes that was produced in the year 1999. At the end of the tape it stated that the Bible code stated there would be a terrorist attack on New York City shortly after the year 2000.

Because terrorists had already attacked the World Trade Center with a bomb in 1993 and stated that they were determined to attack again I would think that those in the business of making predictions would see an attack on New York City as very likely and go to work trying to find words that would support such a prediction. Coosjoaquin and I have tried to explain what is really going on here but it's just not sinking in. It isn't a prediction at all, the people who are coming up with this stuff start off with the idea of a terrorist attack in New York as their goal and then start running hundreds if not thousands of words through this so called code until they find groups of associated words that are in close proximity to each other in the text. How can you call it a prediction when they set out to look for a New York attack right from the start? If you decided to use the Bible code to predict that Campbell34 would be the President of the US in the upcoming election you would find just what you were looking for. That's how this thing works, it's not a code at all, it's just looking for words in the billions of combinations of letters until you find what you're looking for. I'm quite sure that the code breakers in the CIA and elsewhere would agree with me.

[Miss Blue]

Originally Posted by Campbell34

The Bible was always a Book that speaks of the future, and that is one of the reasons God said we needed to study His Word. I find most people here who oppose the Bible, are also the same one's who have a problem believeing facts, especially when those facts confirm the Bible.

It does not require a gifted person to study the Bible, only a willing one.

JMHO..The old trestament books indeed did speak about the future..They spoke of the birth, ministry, death and resurrection of the Son..They spoke about things that would take place before, during and after His death..When asked about "signs" Jesus said, there would be no signs..Does not the new testament book of revelations tell us not to add to nor take away from the word? Looking for "codes" ,imo, are adding to the word..

BTW, I have a son in law who due to an accident, became as a child in mind..He became quite a bible scholar, not because he tried to interpret each and every passage to conform to what he wanted to believe, but because he had a childlike faith that the passages said what they said..

[Campbell34]

Originally Posted by blue62

JMHO..The old trestament books indeed did speak about the future..They spoke of the birth, ministry, death and resurrection of the Son..They spoke about things that would take place before, during and after His death..When asked about "signs" Jesus said, there would be no signs..Does not the new testament book of revelations tell us not to add to nor take away from the word? Looking for "codes" ,imo, are adding to the word..

BTW, I have a son in law who due to an accident, became as a child in mind..He became quite a bible scholar, not because he tried to interpret each and every passage to conform to what he wanted to believe, but because he had a childlike faith that the passages said what they said..

The codes do not add to the Bible, the codes were already there. The codes are added conformation that the Bible could of only been authored by God. And unlike other faiths, only the Bible has this kind of evidence. The codes are to detailed, to factual, and to fabricated into Gods Word to believe they are just there by accident.

[Miss Blue]

Okay, Campbell, I agree to disagree We all have opinions and I try not to get into the debates ( I am just not that smart) I am mainly into listening and learning, and seldom change my opinion..Your posts show your strong opinions and some things to back them up..