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Old 12-07-2018, 12:00 AM
 
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Noahidism is probably the closest thing to a true religion on Earth at this time but even that is mostly just BS.
All religions are mostly BS.

So what do we do?
Do we reject all religion and become atheist.
No. Atheism is mostly BS too.

There simply is no winning move here.
You gotta be in it to win it.
Then I want out because there is no way to win
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Old 12-07-2018, 12:02 AM
 
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A Christian told me today that Christianity is the only TRUE religion and that all other religions are "False" religions. So is Christianity the only TRUE religion?
Christianity isn't a religion. There are religions within Christianity though- Baptist, Nazarene, etc. for example


A Chiristian is defined as a Christ Follower. It's not a religion in and of itself.

There are many religions that do not follow Christ, some don't even believe in his diety of being GOD and Christ and/or those Apostles who he chose to relay his message.
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Old 12-07-2018, 12:02 AM
 
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[...snip...]

they all have some truths, like everything else.
commitment to community and relationships seems like a good one.

[...snip...]
Yes, and even that has its mediating circumstances.

The true religion is the one that matches up to testable and demonstrable reality; although not in all the wrong ways that many religious people think makes their religion match to reality: such as feelings, coincidences, force, blinkered rationalizations, etc.

This fact would require the true religion to be extremely skeptical, extremely introspective, and extremely extrospective, etc. The only one of these three that the current major world religions usually have (at least in some small segments of their factions) is extreme, yet loyalist, instrospection. And if they ever even have an inkling of extrospection it is most often either self-confirmatory (as in liberal factions of religions) or defamatory and disparaging (as in conservative factions of religions).

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Old 12-07-2018, 12:11 AM
 
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You gotta be in it to win it.
Nobody actually “knows” the winning move, however, we can try our best to make the move by using our intelligence, logic and our research.


I see that sometimes we have critical or sarcastic shots at Bible versus and/or at Christianity; however, in my opinion that’s not a very fruitful endeavor.

I may see some extreme practices in the Hindu religion, questionable and disturbing (like the Aghories eating the flesh of dead human bodies in their rituals), so what’s the point if I keep taking shots at them on an Internet forum?


If Bible and Christian theology does not sit well with your idealology then put it on a side and move on in your quest to find the signs of God and his message to you. An honest try, is all what we can do.

As I stated before,
Man does not know his final destiny, but he can try his best till his destiny is revealed to him.
You dressed that up well, dude. Unfortunately, you are like a politician standing up and talking about reforming wasteful expenditure, and letting people reap the reward of their own hard work, and they know what is being said is "Screw the poor and let the Ruling bods stuff their pockets".

So, after swiping at atheism which is of course Wrong because it is not polite to Christianity, you can coax the wavering Biblesucker away from the church and guess what alternative you have in mind?

Anyone want to pop a suggestion?
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Old 12-07-2018, 12:14 AM
 
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Christianity isn't a religion. There are religions within Christianity though- Baptist, Nazarene, etc. for example


A Chiristian is defined as a Christ Follower. It's not a religion in and of itself.

There are many religions that do not follow Christ, some don't even believe in his diety of being GOD and Christ and/or those Apostles who he chose to relay his message.
And there are many Christians within sects, that recognize other Christians within other sects as still Christian.
"Non-denominational" sects of Christianity would also tell you that Christianity by itself is a religion.
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Old 12-07-2018, 12:43 AM
 
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As I stated before,
Man does not know his final destiny, but he can try his best till his destiny is revealed to him.
I believe that a Japanese proverb says,

"One realizes their true nature at the moment of death."

But this is not entirely true, for at every stage of life, even dying, all and any observers can be wrong. Sure, the point of no return during truely dying will indeed be the last time one would have the thought or feeling of knowing their true nature, though.

Still, one's whole life is what is supposed to define them, without death, it never concludes.

Regardless, destiny is stripped of meaning and distiction unless it is finite and conclusive. Without the later two, destiny is just another bland and grounded occurance in the variable sea of life.
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Old 12-07-2018, 05:39 AM
 
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Christians have the Holy Spirit abiding on their spirits , as Holy Spirit is the only Spirit of the living God , as God give His Spirit to the followers of Jesus Christ
Jesus is just yahweh in a skin suit and a different name, right?

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Old 12-07-2018, 05:39 AM
 
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A Christian told me today that Christianity is the only TRUE religion and that all other religions are "False" religions. So is Christianity the only TRUE religion?
Which version of Christianity?

They can not all be true.
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Old 12-07-2018, 05:53 AM
 
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As I stated before,
Man does not know his final destiny, but he can try his best till his destiny is revealed to him.
Interesting.

Tell me GoCard, does god know everyone’s final destiny long before man?

You have to sey yes if your god is omniscient.

If god has you slated to go to the bad place before one is conceived, can any man change that destiny?
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Old 12-07-2018, 06:07 AM
 
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Yes, and even that has its mediating circumstances.

The true religion is the one that matches up to testable and demonstrable reality; although not in all the wrong ways that many religious people think makes their religion match to reality: such as feelings, coincidences, force, blinkered rationalizations, etc.

This fact would require the true religion to be extremely skeptical, extremely introspective, and extremely extrospective, etc. The only one of these three that the current major world religions usually have (at least in some small segments of their factions) is extreme, yet loyalist, instrospection. And if they ever even have an inkling of extrospection it is most often either self-confirmatory (as in liberal factions of religions) or defamatory and disparaging (as in conservative factions of religions).
yup, of course I agree. you snipped out my mediating circumstance.

the ways I speak to your notions is: "police your own first" and "apply the same rigor to our statement of belief as we would theirs". the better religious ( I say religious because it is people responsibility) do that. of course, when they are being skeptical, beating them over the head with "that's apologetic, thus wrong" and "semantics" doesn't always allow the best evaluation process to self correct the group's interests. IMO.
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