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Old 05-14-2019, 08:48 AM
 
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Yea, I looked it up...Wouldn’t mind trying it myself...
Sorry (also for off -topic) as i may have misled people. I'm talking about Hotel coffee that was brewed to four time normal strength.
Singaporean coffee..in a traditional sense is different, being the cheaper Robusta roasted with butter and sugar to improve the flavour and served with condensed milk in the Indian style. You'll not find that in the hotels..
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Old Yesterday, 10:00 PM
 
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"Seek not to understand that you may believe, but believe that you may understand."
Saint Augustine
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Old Yesterday, 10:18 PM
 
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"Seek not to understand that you may believe, but believe that you may understand."
Saint Augustine

Although imagination is always helpful to understanding. Seek always to understand what you believe, do not believe evolution or ancient ideas in order to understand them. For then you will only beleive you understand them, but WILL NOT understand what you believe.

Otherwise, believe in Syncretic Polytheism or Islam with deep faith, and you will believe them and believe that you understand them.

Therefore,

Seek not to believe what you don't understand, but understand what you believe.

Something superstitious, writings on the wall.
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Old Today, 06:26 AM
 
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Seek not to believe what you don't understand, but understand what you believe.
worth repeating
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Old Today, 08:44 AM
 
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Although imagination is always helpful to understanding. Seek always to understand what you believe, do not believe evolution or ancient ideas in order to understand them. For then you will only beleive you understand them, but WILL NOT understand what you believe.

Otherwise, believe in Syncretic Polytheism or Islam with deep faith, and you will believe them and believe that you understand them.

Therefore,

Seek not to believe what you don't understand, but understand what you believe.

Something superstitious, writings on the wall.
That is a wiser and truer remark than the Faith - based one of Augustine. And it's nothing to do with which of you is the smarter, but to do with what we have learned.
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Old Today, 05:26 PM
 
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Although imagination is always helpful to understanding. Seek always to understand what you believe, do not believe evolution or ancient ideas in order to understand them. For then you will only beleive you understand them, but WILL NOT understand what you believe.

Otherwise, believe in Syncretic Polytheism or Islam with deep faith, and you will believe them and believe that you understand them.

Therefore,

Seek not to believe what you don't understand, but understand what you believe.

Something superstitious, writings on the wall.
Yet, it seems like many atheists and agnostics are trying to understand religious belief. At least on this forum.
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Old Today, 06:32 PM
 
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Yet, it seems like many atheists and agnostics are trying to understand religious belief. At least on this forum.
Is there a problem with trying to understand other people? Or to try to understand cats or quatum physics? Obviously thete are some atheists posters who understand cosmology or abiogeneses better than me and it is possible to be able to learn both what you accept and at the same time that which you do not accept. The best way to have an open mind is to free yourself to learn more than just what you need to in order to support what you already accept.

For example, as I person with a geology minor, I feel I must also learn about creationists spin on geology as well if I wish to address global flood claims.
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Old Today, 06:39 PM
 
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Is there a problem with trying to understand other people? Or to try to understand cats or quatum physics? Obviously thete are some atheists posters who understand cosmology or abiogeneses better than me and it is possible to be able to learn both what you accept and at the same time that which you do not accept. The best way to have an open mind is to free yourself to learn more than just what you need to in order to support what you already accept.

For example, as I person with a geology minor, I feel I must also learn about creationists spin on geology as well if I wish to address global flood claims.
Hey badlander...no wonder I like your posts. 2 degrees here in geology!
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Old Today, 07:23 PM
 
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Hey badlander...no wonder I like your posts. 2 degrees here in geology!
Degree is in Physical Geography.

I had a Geology lab partner who took a religious studies course, only because the rest of the class were females. One Friday afternoon class he fell asleep and woke up in a dark classroom, the teacher noticed him asleep and silently dismissed her class and turned out the lights. After that he didn't even speak to any classmates, too embarrassed.
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Old Today, 08:27 PM
 
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Degree is in Physical Geography.

I had a Geology lab partner who took a religious studies course, only because the rest of the class were females. One Friday afternoon class he fell asleep and woke up in a dark classroom, the teacher noticed him asleep and silently dismissed her class and turned out the lights. After that he didn't even speak to any classmates, too embarrassed.
My minor was geography.
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