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Old 02-25-2019, 09:16 AM
 
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I see this as essentially the same thing. I donít believe in either.
Yes, very much the same thing. But 'Fate' I see as more like Karma - it's a more mechanical process where some Intent or plan is worked out without the ability to make changes that a god might have. It's the difference between wirtchcraft and atrology. You can appease or bribe a witch, but al you can do with astrology is try to know what it has in store.

Fate - it always has this connotation of 'ypou can't escape it'. Nobody tried to appease or pray to fate, but people try to find a loophole or a way round it - if they just know what it plans. Very similar to a god, but with the humanlike mind.
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Old Yesterday, 01:03 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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In a educated, sophisticated world of people in 2019...you still have over half endorsing an Abrahamic theological concept, and 4 out of 5 overall put stock in some religion. And religious belief is gaining on a global basis. Not because the Believers take the metaphorical and allegorical stories literally..but becuse they dig the overall philosophy of the theology.
Insulting them and bashing them for their beliefs on internet forums will not change anything and is not an effective "something else" to try to change that. Pounding sand and spitting into a strong wind would be more efficient and effective.
"Logic, reason, and common sense" make that obvious...so the only real reason some are here bashing, is because they get off on doing that.
Go take your tablet GldnRain.

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The Monkees???You're obviously easily amused as well as influenced if Dolenz going to a church was that interesting to you.
Now ain't that the truth.
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Old Today, 09:00 AM
 
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One of the Monkees just died. It's as if I'm starting to get up in the middle of a church service to go see a rock concert, and suddenly the preacher's next message point is about that particular band.

But we are talking about something pre-recorded by at least a year or two. Which would be even stranger than that. I wasn't interesting in a Monkee attending church. But it's like God was calling me back by getting my attention with something that had distracted me away from the church.
As others have noted, it is deeply engrained in human (and all animal) behavior to LOOK FOR PATTERNS. For some, it stops as a quirky observation ("huh, that was funny")... for some it becomes habit ("If I go here each day around this time, I get food")... for some it creates superstition ("my team wins if I wear these sox")... and for some it progresses to obsessive compulsive disorder ("I'm gonna have problems if I don't do this same routine every time").

Looking for God in every random coincidence falls somewhere along that continuum.

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Old Today, 09:41 AM
 
Location: minnesota
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As others have noted, it is deeply engrained in human (and all animal) behavior to LOOK FOR PATTERNS. For some, it stops as a quirky observation ("huh, that was funny")... for some it becomes habit... for some it creates superstition... and for some it progresses to obsessive compulsive disorder. Looking for God in every random coincidence falls somewhere along that continuum.
I can see that being a result. I wasn't looking for it when it happened to me. It's was so distracting and I felt like it was coming at me from every direction. Like my brain couldn't figure out what to filter out as non important and what was relevant so it just let everything in. It stopped once I got my explanation.
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Old Today, 09:51 AM
 
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I can see that being a result. I wasn't looking for it when it happened to me. It's was so distracting and I felt like it was coming at me from every direction. Like my brain couldn't figure out what to filter out as non important and what was relevant so it just let everything in. It stopped once I got my explanation.
Two quick points of clarification, just in case my words were misleading...

(a) It might have been more accurate to say our brains readily "perceive patterns," even if we aren't actively looking for them.

(b) Hopefully I didn't imply that OCD is the logical, inevitable or desirable outcome of this pattern-seeking behavior! Sometimes it is important and necessary, from an evolutionary perspective.
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Old Today, 09:59 AM
 
Location: minnesota
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Two quick points of clarification, just in case my words were misleading...

(a) It might have been more accurate to say our brains readily "perceive patterns," even if we aren't actively looking for them.

(b) Hopefully I didn't imply that OCD is the logical, inevitable or desirable outcome of this pattern-seeking behavior! Sometimes it is important and necessary, from an evolutionary perspective.
At the point I was at it wasn't an advantage At first it was but got outta hand quickly. I think it goes into hyper drive in some of us.
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