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Old 12-19-2018, 02:24 PM
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The same garbage that encourages racism in certain churches runs rampant throughout the US and the world, and has since the beginning of time. It's part of the dark underbelly of humanity. People have and always will judge and divide. Everyone on this forum has done it themselves, though most will never get real with his or herself and admit it. Admitting that leads to progress. Denying that just leads to slewing around the same old muck, dumping all blame on select persons and groups, with no benefit or gain.

At the root of this thread is just another selective use of history and human example, for selective bashing.

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Old 12-19-2018, 03:03 PM
 
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This is exactly what I never understood about atheism.

If you ask an atheist why they are atheist they will say its because they believe that the church spreads bad ideas that are harmful to society. They may be right about that but then why call yourself a-theist or anti-church? Why not call yourself anti-bad-ideas-that-are-harmful-to-society. The world is full of bad harmful ideas so why single out the church?
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Old 12-19-2018, 03:23 PM
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^ They're not being honest with themselves. They are bent on attacking Christianity, and any tactic will suffice. It doesn't matter that they ignore the same garbage they do and engage in. They are racists as such with spirituality, discriminating against a "color" of thought, and condemning what they despise and don't understand or want to understand. They're also cowards, sulking in the shadows of life and the universe with their empty and shallow ways.

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Old 12-19-2018, 03:54 PM
 
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This specific racism is a product of southern culture, combined with depraved and lost "churches". That's 'churches' in a building and membership sense, not 'the church' as in the 'body of Christ'.

Jesus spoke out against such vile hatred of others, so Jesus would be more disgusted by this racism than any of us could ever be.

Get it straight; the roots and causes. This is the worst of American culture, to the core. Throwing stones at the wrong target creates more problems for everyone.
the only folks who see racism in the body of Christ are evangelicals who take great pleasure and joy in the punishment of the the marginalized.
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Old Yesterday, 02:46 AM
 
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Sorry, but we're talking about positions taken by a christian church.

I'm not going to let you whitewash America's christian past.
Whitewash? Now that is crazy talk.
How do you know that church is christian? In all likelihood, it is not a church at all. They cannot self proclaim themselves as such, Apostle paul established the church and you will see what a church is by studying his commands regarding this.

Noah and his family were the only ones which survived the flood because EVERYONE ELSE on earth was wicked.

If you decide to play judge, going against the wisdom of the bible by self assuming a church is christian, despite seeing evidence otherwise, that is on you. It makes no sense so I cannot help you there. What you are promoting is not biblical.

The road to destruction is wide. Few will find the narrow road to life. You are likely an unbeliever and just sore about what other unbelievers are doing. They are trying to deceive, that is what unbelievers do. Sad they call themselves a church when they aren't but what can you do?
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Old Yesterday, 02:49 AM
 
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I think that's a disgusting concept.
I don't like it either.
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Old Yesterday, 09:48 AM
 
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Whitewash? Now that is crazy talk.
How do you know that church is christian? In all likelihood, it is not a church at all. They cannot self proclaim themselves as such, Apostle paul established the church and you will see what a church is by studying his commands regarding this.

Noah and his family were the only ones which survived the flood because EVERYONE ELSE on earth was wicked.

If you decide to play judge, going against the wisdom of the bible by self assuming a church is christian, despite seeing evidence otherwise, that is on you. It makes no sense so I cannot help you there. What you are promoting is not biblical.

The road to destruction is wide. Few will find the narrow road to life. You are likely an unbeliever and just sore about what other unbelievers are doing. They are trying to deceive, that is what unbelievers do. Sad they call themselves a church when they aren't but what can you do?
Excuse me? The Southern Baptists? One of the largest congregations in North America?

Stop bringing up the fictional Noah. And STOP MAKING EXCUSES for christianity's history.
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Old Yesterday, 12:31 PM
 
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Excuse me? The Southern Baptists? One of the largest congregations in North America?

Stop bringing up the fictional Noah. And STOP MAKING EXCUSES for christianity's history.
Southern Baptist is not one congregation. It is a convention that holds a set of basic beliefs, racism is not one of them.
Have Christians historically supported slavery when the rest of the world supported slavery, yes. Have some and are some Christians racist, yes. Just like everyone else.
Why is it you think that when the origins of a religion began in a time when slavery and bigotry were the common theme among all people that those following that religion would set apart from the beliefs and accepted behaviors of the world around them.
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Old Yesterday, 02:06 PM
 
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Southern Baptist is not one congregation. It is a convention that holds a set of basic beliefs, racism is not one of them.
Have Christians historically supported slavery when the rest of the world supported slavery, yes. Have some and are some Christians racist, yes. Just like everyone else.
Why is it you think that when the origins of a religion began in a time when slavery and bigotry were the common theme among all people that those following that religion would set apart from the beliefs and accepted behaviors of the world around them.
Actually, American Christians supported slavery much longer than their brethren in the UK. Not only that, but they actually used the Church, Bible and Hierarchy for nefarious purposes. Slaves were often allowed to practice (segregated, of course) because the Bosses figured it will stop them from revolting. Peace and all of that...if things are bad it is because God made it so....

Most of the other civilized Christian countries didn't fight a vast war to make it happen....and then (the slavers) didn't spend 100+ years after the war being angry that it was abolished.

These are important facts.

In Summary, American Christians tended to support slavery well after the rest of the world.
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Old Yesterday, 02:14 PM
 
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Actually, American Christians supported slavery much longer than their brethren in the UK. Not only that, but they actually used the Church, Bible and Hierarchy for nefarious purposes. Slaves were often allowed to practice (segregated, of course) because the Bosses figured it will stop them from revolting. Peace and all of that...if things are bad it is because God made it so....

Most of the other civilized Christian countries didn't fight a vast war to make it happen....and then (the slavers) didn't spend 100+ years after the war being angry that it was abolished.

These are important facts. In Summary, American Christians tended to support slavery well after the rest of the world.
Yes, "Ham's curse" made it okay and capitalism provided the wheels.


Apparently, Noah is the accepted progenitor of 4 (root)races?!
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