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Old Yesterday, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Southern Baptist is not one congregation. It is a convention that holds a set of basic beliefs, racism is not one of them.
Have Christians historically supported slavery when the rest of the world supported slavery, yes. Have some and are some Christians racist, yes. Just like everyone else.
Why is it you think that when the origins of a religion began in a time when slavery and bigotry were the common theme among all people that those following that religion would set apart from the beliefs and accepted behaviors of the world around them.
You are aware that they formally apologized for their support of slavery?

The word "congregation" has more than one narrow meaning.
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Old Yesterday, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Cumberland Co., TN
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You are aware that they formally apologized for their support of slavery?

The word "congregation" has more than one narrow meaning.
Yes I'm aware the convention apologized. Its the new thing, people, groups, organizations pressured to apologize in the name of political correctness for events of history for which they had no part in. Now days you have white people apologizing for being white. Men apologizing for being male.

Apologies are beginning to carry as much meaning as the word racist.
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Old Yesterday, 03:15 PM
 
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Yes I'm aware the convention apologized. Its the new thing, people, groups, organizations pressured to apologize in the name of political correctness for events of history for which they had no part in. Now days you have white people apologizing for being white. Men apologizing for being male.

Apologies are beginning to carry as much meaning as the word racist.
It's not clear what you are getting at? Rants will sometimes do that.......

Is it either....

1. Their apology doesn't mean anything since at the core they are/were racist and that even continues today?

or:

2. They have no need to apologize as they were just doing what Christians do?
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Old Yesterday, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Yes I'm aware the convention apologized. Its the new thing, people, groups, organizations pressured to apologize in the name of political correctness for events of history for which they had no part in. Now days you have white people apologizing for being white. Men apologizing for being male.

Apologies are beginning to carry as much meaning as the word racist.
Please be careful, in twisting and twisting in a way not to damage christianity, you could hurt yourself.
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Old Yesterday, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Cumberland Co., TN
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Actually, American Christians supported slavery much longer than their brethren in the UK. Not only that, but they actually used the Church, Bible and Hierarchy for nefarious purposes. Slaves were often allowed to practice (segregated, of course) because the Bosses figured it will stop them from revolting. Peace and all of that...if things are bad it is because God made it so....

Most of the other civilized Christian countries didn't fight a vast war to make it happen....and then (the slavers) didn't spend 100+ years after the war being angry that it was abolished.

These are important facts.

In Summary, American Christians tended to support slavery well after the rest of the world.
Actually slavery existed all over the world, among various cultures since our earliest history. That the UK ended slavery before America is irrelevant to religion. The UK engaged in slavery well, well before the Americas It was the British the spearheaded the Atlantic slave trade, bringing slaves from Africa as well as undesirables and children to the Americas as slaves.

Yes people have used the bible to justify a lot of practices we now find disgusting, including Christians because, well after all, they are just people like everyone else. And need I point out the civil war was about more than slavery and was not a religious war, it was based on economics.

These are also important facts.
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Old Yesterday, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Cumberland Co., TN
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Please be careful, in twisting and twisting in a way not to damage christianity, you could hurt yourself.
Twisting and twisting what? This has nothing to do with Christianity. The Southern Baptist Convention is just another organization pressured to apologize for history.
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Old Yesterday, 04:33 PM
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Location: Better left unsaid
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Twisting and twisting what? This has nothing to do with Christianity. The Southern Baptist Convention is just another organization pressured to apologize for history.
You might not want to take some of the comments so deeply or seriously. There are some on this forum that are more interested in toying with people than trying to relate or communicate with innocent intentions. I'm not saying that's the case with ph, as I don't keep track of what people say, but people vary heavily in intent, and maliciousness is common.
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Old Yesterday, 05:07 PM
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Quoth Chicken Little, apropos of nothing.

This is what Jesus taught---Matthew 6:33-- Therefore, keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his( YHVH(Jehovah) righteousness--- That's exactly what the true followers accomplish-John 4:22-24
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Old Yesterday, 05:09 PM
 
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Twisting and twisting what? This has nothing to do with Christianity. The Southern Baptist Convention is just another organization pressured to apologize for history.
So you doubt their sincerity.

Another black eye for christianity.
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Old Yesterday, 08:17 PM
 
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This is exactly what I never understood about atheism.

If you ask an atheist why they are atheist they will say its because they believe that the church spreads bad ideas that are harmful to society. They may be right about that but then why call yourself a-theist or anti-church? Why not call yourself anti-bad-ideas-that-are-harmful-to-society. The world is full of bad harmful ideas so why single out the church?
It doesn't make sense. The church is the "scapegoat" for atheists. They're worse than any religious fundamentalist.
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