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Old 01-16-2019, 08:47 AM
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Location: Georgia
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Can I just tweak that Bro! ... The problem is that such evidence is not verifiable and evidence that cannot be verified is absolutely useless - as evidence.
Fair enough.
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Old 01-16-2019, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Fair enough.
Yes, he does’nt know the difference between evidence and proof either.
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Old 01-16-2019, 08:21 PM
 
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Neither type is possible.
In my opinion, this is it!

Every action that we take, has a reason. Our reasons to have a "Faith" may vary from person to person, but there is always a reason why someone has faith.
So having faith, without a reason, is as ridiculous as having faith based on evidence, because by definition, as bUU put it

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All faith is "without evidence" by definition. You cannot "have faith" in something for which there is evidence that is unequivocally true. .
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Old 01-16-2019, 08:23 PM
 
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Faith without evidence IS faith without reason, so in a sense they are synonymous.
You as an Atheist, and I as a believer seem to have found some minor common ground in the past, but frankly speaking, this, IMO, is the worst answer I have received so far.

It doesn't make sense, both logically and philosophically.
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Old 01-16-2019, 10:17 PM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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You as an Atheist, and I as a believer seem to have found some minor common ground in the past, but frankly speaking, this, IMO, is the worst answer I have received so far.

It doesn't make sense, both logically and philosophically.
Don't continually blame your inability to understand on other people's inability to properly explain.

Check the mirror.
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Old 01-16-2019, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Yes, he does’nt know the difference between evidence and proof either.
Who doesn't?
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Old 01-17-2019, 12:27 AM
 
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Don't continually blame your inability to understand on other people's inability to properly explain.

Check the mirror.
So whose “inability to explain” you talking about? Your’s or thrillo’s?
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Old 01-17-2019, 04:44 AM
 
Location: Florida
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You as an Atheist, and I as a believer seem to have found some minor common ground in the past, but frankly speaking, this, IMO, is the worst answer I have received so far.

It doesn't make sense, both logically and philosophically.
Depends on how this is written and/or read."
"Faith without evidence IS faith without reason, so in a sense they are synonymous." which is correct.
I'd say you're 'reading' it as...
"Faith without evidence IS faith without A reason, so in a sense they are synonymous." which is why you object
Ah, the 'beauty' of the English language.
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Old 01-17-2019, 05:55 AM
 
Location: Germany
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You as an Atheist, and I as a believer seem to have found some minor common ground in the past, but frankly speaking, this, IMO, is the worst answer I have received so far.

It doesn't make sense, both logically and philosophically.
Depends on how you are using the word 'reason', as a noun or a verb.
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Old 01-17-2019, 05:58 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Depends on how this is written and/or read."
"Faith without evidence IS faith without reason, so in a sense they are synonymous." which is correct.
I'd say you're 'reading' it as...
"Faith without evidence IS faith without A reason, so in a sense they are synonymous." which is why you object
Ah, the 'beauty' of the English language.
Exactly, that is why I am confused.
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