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Old 01-29-2019, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Germany
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I am sure that the creator of a hell and paradise has the power to use them, but not necessarily the right. Using a hell for eternal tortureis monstrously immoral.
And how could one enjoy Paradise knowing of their loved ones who did not make it?
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Old 01-29-2019, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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The idea of "hell" has to be taken with the idea of "heaven" because they are polar opposites, the concept of reward and punishment but on a much grander scale. The reward of following the tenets of the church was eternal life and your reward was heaven, but to transgress against the church brought eternal punishment and that was hell. Neither of these conditions exist, for the idea of polar opposites is a construct of the human mind, they are just concepts and are subjective.
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Old 01-29-2019, 01:18 PM
 
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Between us and you(sinners) a great chasm has been fixed, in order that those who would pass from here to you may not be able, and none may cross from there to us (Luke 16:26).


There is no exit door from "hell". It's one way road.



Jesus taught in Luke 16:27–30 that God’s Word gives humanity sufficient warning about how to avoid hell.


John 5:24: “Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.”

Path between hell and heaven can be chosen only during life. After the death, it's done deal.
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Old 01-29-2019, 01:21 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Does the Afterlife have a literal Hell?
No, I don't think so.
During the afterlife we are the same tiresome SOBs we were during life. Or the same angels.
But we're in the same place. We can all improve. Forever.
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Old 01-29-2019, 01:28 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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.........Neither of these conditions exist, for the idea of polar opposites is a construct of the human mind, they are just concepts and are subjective.
It helps to observe that in nature there sometimes are no opposites.
Hot and cold are not opposites - you can never remove all the heat and achieve absolute zero.
Light and dark are not opposites. There is always light, even if we humans can't see it. Infra red, ultra violet, X-Ray, Gamma ray - they are all just different wavelengths and cannot be stopped.


Not everything has an opposite...
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Old 01-29-2019, 02:59 PM
 
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It helps to observe that in nature there sometimes are no opposites.
Hot and cold are not opposites - you can never remove all the heat and achieve absolute zero.
Light and dark are not opposites. There is always light, even if we humans can't see it. Infra red, ultra violet, X-Ray, Gamma ray - they are all just different wavelengths and cannot be stopped.


Not everything has an opposite...
So in one post, you state that there is no hell and no heaven.


And now you implement that if hell exists then heaven may exist or may not exist, but heaven is not the opposite of hell?
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Old 01-29-2019, 03:17 PM
 
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And how could one enjoy Paradise knowing of their loved ones who did not make it?
Come on Harry, they will be way to busy on their knees with hands in front of their mouths to be worried about their son or daughter not making the cut.
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Old 01-29-2019, 04:02 PM
 
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Default Does the Afterlife have a literal Hell?

No.
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Old 01-29-2019, 06:33 PM
 
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No.

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Old 01-29-2019, 09:14 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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So in one post, you state that there is no hell and no heaven.


And now you implement that if hell exists then heaven may exist or may not exist, but heaven is not the opposite of hell?
Did I confuse you?
I don't believe in heaven or hell. There. Clear.
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