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Religion might have chinks in it, idk. Scripture doesn't. The word of God holds true but to the unsaved, it makes no sense and is foolishness to them - 'The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.' 1 Corinthians 2:14
The bible has at least five different theologies in it. Quoting something usually found in a cult while pretending the bible makes sense is amusing.
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Reading the bible is more than just opening it up and reading it like a book, there's a lot to consider. Language, context, traditions of the times.
Context.
Yes I said that twice.
Which all tells us the NT is religious fiction or letters about a divine being seen in visions.
.......... There are, of course, the ones who post Scripture like it was evidence of something.
If nothing else, evidence that the Bible is the Christian's principle textbook.
How can one learn what the Bible really teaches without the Scriptures.
Of course what is posted should correspond with Scripture.
A comprehensive concordance helps put the Bible in alphabetical order for us.
Since the Bible has corresponding or parallel cross-reference verses and passages that shows us that we can see the internal harmony among the many Bible writers.
Bible is evidence of what is coming as per 1st Thess. 5:2-3.
When the ' powers that be ' will be saying, "Peace and Security..." that will prove to be the precursor to the coming great tribulation of Rev. 7:14,9 before Jesus, as Prince of Peace, ushers in global Peace on Earth among persons of goodwill.
The bible has at least five different theologies in it. Quoting something usually found in a cult while pretending the bible makes sense is amusing.
Which all tells us the NT is religious fiction or letters about a divine being seen in visions.
What 5 different theologies ______
The Bible is full of cross-reference verses and passages.
Thus, we can criss-cross to-and-fro through the pages of Scripture to make a complete picture by subject or topic.
A comprehensive concordance puts the Bible in ABC order for us as a dictionary does.
Jesus' recorded words show Jesus often prefaced his statements with the words, " it is written...."
Written down because it was already written or recorded in the old Hebrew Scriptures.
Thus, Jesus based his teachings on what was already written down expounding Scripture for us.
The theme of Jesus' teachings (Luke 4:43) is consistent with what he instructed to be done at Matthew 24:13; Acts 1:8.
The good news of Daniel 2:44 would be proclaimed world wide just as it is being done on an international scale today.
The Bible is full of cross-reference verses and passages.
Thus, we can criss-cross to-and-fro through the pages of Scripture to make a complete picture by subject or topic.
If you start with something that is flawed you'll end with something that is flawed - no matter how much criss-crossing you do.
The only point you're proving is that you aren't equipped to discern the word of God,
Yet it is you who does not know what your NT actually says?
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and I don't mean that as an insult although I'm sure you and your fellow God haters will take it that way. It's spiritually discerned.
If we hate god, that means you must hate all the other gods, which means they also exist, and therefore your one and only god can not. You have just refuted all the Abrahamic religions. That is why the 'hate god' argument is stupid.
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There are truths there that aren't just read by a cursory glance.
Then you have a lot of studying to do.
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That, again, is your choice. These are all your choices. You can try to find the truth or you can mock it and disregard what's all around you.
If you start with something that is flawed you'll end with something that is flawed - no matter how much criss-crossing you do.
I am wondering what you find flawed with Jesus' references to the old Hebrew Scriptures _______________
The ' criss-crossing ' references shows the internal harmony among the many Bible writers.
That is because we can search or research the Scriptures by topic or subject arrangement.
OT Yahweh and his wife; OT Yahweh (wife conveniently forgotten); Yahweh makes Jesus; Yahweh is Jesus; Yahweh is the bad god, the father of Jesus is the good god.
I am wondering what you find flawed with Jesus' references to the old Hebrew Scriptures _______________
The ' criss-crossing ' references shows the internal harmony among the many Bible writers.
That is because we can search or research the Scriptures by topic or subject arrangement.
The 'criss-crossing' show how the various texts contradict, but you pretend one contradictory text is explain the other.
If nothing else, evidence that the Bible is the Christian's principle textbook.
How can one learn what the Bible really teaches without the Scriptures.
Of course what is posted should correspond with Scripture.
A comprehensive concordance helps put the Bible in alphabetical order for us.
Since the Bible has corresponding or parallel cross-reference verses and passages that shows us that we can see the internal harmony among the many Bible writers.
Bible is evidence of what is coming as per 1st Thess. 5:2-3.
When the ' powers that be ' will be saying, "Peace and Security..." that will prove to be the precursor to the coming great tribulation of Rev. 7:14,9 before Jesus, as Prince of Peace, ushers in global Peace on Earth among persons of goodwill.
I agree. The Bible is the Christian's principle textbook. And nothing else. I am not too impressed by that 'Fits all ages' prophecy, either. And isn't Thessalonians one of the more dubious Epistles? No, that's 2 Thessalonians. The first letter is considered OK. But was Paul really regarded as a prophet? He was really just repeating the claims about the 2nd coming and last days and, as you will know, Matthew 4.4, Matthew 24. 34 says the same thing but adds that some living at the time would see it before they were dead. That is near 2,000 years ago and you people are still waiting for it.
So Paul's recycling of the claim in Thessalonians doesn't impress me much.
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I am wondering what you find flawed with Jesus' references to the old Hebrew Scriptures
What I find flawed is the Jesus story.
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