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Old 03-21-2019, 01:55 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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I am wondering what you find flawed with Jesus' references to the old Hebrew Scriptures _______________
The ' criss-crossing ' references shows the internal harmony among the many Bible writers.
That is because we can search or research the Scriptures by topic or subject arrangement.
I rather like the grotesque misrepresentation of David and the Shewbread, used (ostensibly by Jesus) as a reason why the Sabbath wasn't important, if you will believe it. This was told to the Pharisees in the cornfield and no Pharisee who knew his Bible would have been struck silent as the Synoptic gospels (but not John of course) represents it.

It is a lie - a Christian argument stuffed into Jesus' mouth to sideline the Laws of Moses (unless the Christians had Jesus 'endorse' them). You know the ones: circumcision, clean food laws, going to worship on the Holy Day of the week..The Christians had Jesus get rid of all that.

As to the Gospels supporting each other, Matthew and Mark refute Luke as their rejection at Nazareth has no attempted assassination. Luke refutes Matthew who has Joseph Flee to Egypt, while Luke simply has them go home to Nazareth after the circumcision rites in Jerusalem. And John refutes the synoiptics as he describes the events at Bethsaida but has no mention of a Transfiguration.

Now the true believer may shrug off monumental scupperring to the other gospels like that, but I don't see how they could ever explain it to me.
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Old 03-21-2019, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Thas alright, me and Trout will go to Valhalla and loot for ouselves, we don't need no help. No Valhalla beer for you.
Okay. Sounds like a plan. I see ravens nearly every day.
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Old 03-21-2019, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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The fossilized bones of our ancestors are evidence of our physical evolution and the writings (fossilized thoughts) of our ancestors are evidence of our spiritual (cognitive) evolution of our understanding of God. In that sense, scripture IS evidence, Arq.
Were there ancestors ever WRONG about much...or was there very much they didn't know?
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Old 03-21-2019, 05:42 PM
 
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Were there ancestors ever WRONG about much...or was there very much they didn't know?
Given the knowledge explosion in the last 2000+ years, it is inescapable that they lacked knowledge and were wrong about a lot of things. That's why there is an evolution over millennia and continues today. Sadly, the mainstream Christian churches (and other religions) stagnated their interpretation and understanding in the 1st century or earlier and have vigorously fought any revisions and evolution of their tenets as a sign of Fatih in God.
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Old 03-21-2019, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Given the knowledge explosion in the last 2000+ years, it is inescapable that they lacked knowledge and were wrong about a lot of things. That's why there is an evolution over millennia and continues today. Sadly, the mainstream Christian churches (and other religions) stagnated their interpretation and understanding in the 1st century or earlier and have vigorously fought any revisions and evolution of their tenets as a sign of Fatih in God.
Well, at least we got that out of you.
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Old 03-21-2019, 06:49 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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Given the knowledge explosion in the last 2000+ years, it is inescapable that they lacked knowledge and were wrong about a lot of things. That's why there is an evolution over millennia and continues today. Sadly, the mainstream Christian churches (and other religions) stagnated their interpretation and understanding in the 1st century or earlier and have vigorously fought any revisions and evolution of their tenets as a sign of Fatih in God.
Yeah, especially the discovery that space and time had a beginning (as described by Einstein), thereby refuting past philosophers such as Aristotle, and confirming the Word of God. You must realize that the Bible is the divinely-inspired Word of God. It correctly and anachronistically describes many scientific facts. For example, many elements of Mosaic Law make sense only in light of the germ theory of disease.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2sMJMXDiH4
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Old 03-22-2019, 04:47 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Yeah, especially the discovery that space and time had a beginning (as described by Einstein), thereby refuting past philosophers such as Aristotle, and confirming the Word of God. You must realize that the Bible is the divinely-inspired Word of God. It correctly and anachronistically describes many scientific facts. For example, many elements of Mosaic Law make sense only in light of the germ theory of disease.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2sMJMXDiH4
Plants before the sun.
God ignorant of germ theory.

I would look at your video further but

1) I have seen these misrepresentations before,
2) my time costs money (and that video is about 30 minutes long), and
3) Ray Comfort! Do you have no actual science (to post in the relevant section)?
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Old 03-22-2019, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Yeah, especially the discovery that space and time had a beginning (as described by Einstein), thereby refuting past philosophers such as Aristotle, and confirming the Word of God. You must realize that the Bible is the divinely-inspired Word of God. It correctly and anachronistically describes many scientific facts. For example, many elements of Mosaic Law make sense only in light of the germ theory of disease.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2sMJMXDiH4
More pseudo science from the liars for Jesus. Ray 'Banana Man' Comfort. LMAO!

The banana. The atheists nightmare.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXLqDGL1FSg


That's the sort of moron that your 'science' is coming from snj90
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Old 03-22-2019, 07:48 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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More pseudo science from the liars for Jesus. Ray 'Banana Man' Comfort. LMAO!

The banana. The atheists nightmare.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXLqDGL1FSg


That's the sort of moron that your 'science' is coming from snj90
You'd think that 'The Banana - the atheists' nitemare' would have Done for Ray Comfort. Just as a few hoots and scandals would have done for a few others. But they keep coming back. I remember watching a vid of Ray Comfort doing the 'Banana routine' as stand -up comedy and trying to pretend that it has all been just a joke.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqB4FOlCtls

Probably too long for a complete watch, but what can you do with someone who sees 'I know' as better than 'We don't know' regarding Cosmic Origins? I swear it's true. In a Matt Dillahunty debate, the Christian sneered at atheism for not knowing how the (pre -universe) cosmos started, and they really believe that 'Goddunnit' in an old book of fairy stories is a better answer.
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Old 03-22-2019, 07:57 AM
 
Location: USA
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Were there ancestors ever WRONG about much...or was there very much they didn't know?
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Given the knowledge explosion in the last 2000+ years, it is inescapable that they lacked knowledge and were wrong about a lot of things. That's why there is an evolution over millennia and continues today. Sadly, the mainstream Christian churches (and other religions) stagnated their interpretation and understanding in the 1st century or earlier and have vigorously fought any revisions and evolution of their tenets as a sign of Fatih in God.
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Well, at least we got that out of you.
What did you get out of him? Mystic has been saying what he said in that post as long as I’ve been here.
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