U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 03-23-2019, 08:53 AM
 
12,252 posts, read 4,684,258 times
Reputation: 1293

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shirina View Post
Well, that isn't true.

I also wouldn't call it a "freak out" - which hyperbolizes what atheists usually say when god is mentioned.

BUT ...

You're pretty much illustrating the problem: The word "god" has way too much baggage. If you're not talking about some kind of all-powerful, transcendent, supernatural, anthropomorphic being - the kind of god worshiped by at least 4 billion out of the 7 billion people on the planet, then the word "god" muddies the waters. And when I say "muddy" I mean it turns the water literally opaque.

Thus whenever you call the universe "god" or collective conscious "god" or whatever you perceive regarding the universe, you bring into the fray all the baggage that word carries.

Rest assured, it has nothing to do with "other issues" as you pointed out. (There's way too much diagnosing going on lately - as if this forum hosted a swarm of clinical psychiatrists qualified to make them).

But it would be more precise language - with a lot more finesse - if non-religious believers in a higher power stayed away from the word "god."

Unfortunately, some folks - Mystic for example - has incorporated certain aspects of religiosity and Christianity in their non-religious beliefs which makes it even more difficult to deal with. It's hard to debunk the religious aspects of these beliefs without debunking the entire belief. Thus the illusion is presented that the entire paradigm is under attack rather than just a part of it.
I mean, you have a point.

But do we reject the claim based on how we feel about the word? or about the claim itself?

mystic's interpretation are easy to deal with when we don't worry about answering to a statement of belief god/religion to me.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 03-25-2019, 02:29 PM
 
4,994 posts, read 2,451,602 times
Reputation: 372
Quote:
Originally Posted by gabfest View Post
Yes, that would scare the hell out of most people, especially with the ambiguity of the unforgivable sin.
On a side note: Interestingly, some believe the molten core of the earth is hell.
Those who commit the unforgivable sin of Matthew 12:32 are classed with the wicked of Psalm 92:7.
The wicked will be ' destroyed forever ' as per Psalm 92:7.

In Scripture we find Jesus did Not believe hell to be earth's core.
Rather, on the day Jesus died he went to biblical hell or the stone-cold temporary grave - Acts 2:27.
If biblical hell was a permanent place then Jesus would still be in hell.
Jesus taught, Not pain, but taught sleep in death at John 11:11-14.
Jesus learned the sleeping condition about the dead from the old Hebrew Scriptures:
Such as Psalm 6:5 Psalm 13:3; Psalm 115:17; Psalm 146:4; Isaiah 38:18; Ecclesiastes 9:5
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-08-2019, 11:13 PM
 
Location: NSW
2,673 posts, read 1,812,134 times
Reputation: 920
Quote:
Originally Posted by gabfest View Post
Yes, that would scare the hell out of most people, especially with the ambiguity of the unforgivable sin.

On a side note: Interestingly, some believe the molten core of the earth is hell.
I think it's more than some, and many NDE's refer to it as being in the interior of the Earth.
I find it hard to believe it is an actual place though on earth, that is since the earthly body is gone, how can the spiritual body or soul still be occupying space in the earths core?
Does not make sense.
However, if this Hell place is for real and for the souls of the damned , it pretty much trivialises everything that has happened on earth in one's lifetime, as the eternal torment is going to be so many times worse than anything that happens or has happened in all of our lives.
Hell is just too awful and horrible to even contemplate, esp as there is no way out apparently.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old Today, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Divided Tribes of America
12,946 posts, read 5,271,742 times
Reputation: 5030
The afterlife is limited only by the human imagination. If an eternal “heaven” is possible, why not an eternal hell?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. | Please obey Forum Rules | Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top