U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 03-02-2019, 05:35 AM
 
11,958 posts, read 4,570,115 times
Reputation: 1273

Advertisements

so much chit chat and not one reason to believe a guy died, rose, and went where ever for our sins.

the four gospels remind me of the transformer move series that people take as, well, gospel.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 03-02-2019, 04:47 PM
 
Location: City-Data Forum
7,495 posts, read 4,532,777 times
Reputation: 1255
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Diogenes View Post
Except Paul says Jesus appeared to the twelve. It is as if he did not know the story about Judas.
Then again, he wouldn't know the story of Judas, since he said he wasn't with them before Jesus died.

....

Jesus = "Joshua" meaning "God saves" or "the saving God" "God is salvation."

Judas Iscariot (either Sicarri terrorist or "man from Kerioth" a city that Amos promises will be destroyed)= "praised" but given the "Ju" at the start, it would be as if "praised" was spelled as "Godified" so ultimate meaning of "GLORIFIED."

other Judas/Jude (son of James)
Thaddaeus = "breast/chest/heart/bosom/brave/courageous/friend/ or if Theodoros in Aramaic then "God's gold/gift" which would make it like matthew, so that is unlikely. Most likely BRAVEHEART.
Lebbaeus = "heart/my heart"

Matthew = "mattayah" meaning "giving God" of "gift of God" or "God is giving/gifting" "GODGIFT"
Levi = "join/attach/interbreed" the tax collector identified as Matthew for unknown reasons

other Matthew/Matthias replaced Judas by a random lottery of people (or John Baptist followers) that were with Jesus since the Baptism with John the Baptist to the Crucifixion.

John son of Zebedee (brother of one James, both turned to "sons of Thunder")= "Johan" "Juan" meaning God is gracious/courteous/kind/polite/respectful/respectable "GODGRACE"

James son of Zebedee (brother of John, both turned to "sons of Thunder")= Jaime, Jacob (from Greek "Jacomus" version of Jacobus") means "Right on their heel" by the Hebrew pharase "grabbing the heel" which implies "about to overtake first place," "next in line" "runner-up" "OVERTAKER"

other James (=Jacomus/Jacob), the lesser/minor/younger and the son of Alphaeus.

Simon (brother of Andrew) = Simon is "LISTEN" in Hebrew. "flat-nosed" in Greek.
Spoiler
in Hebrew "flat-nosed" was "Charum" and disqualified a member of the priestly caste from being allowed to be a priest.

Peter = "STONE/rock/boulder" in Greek.
Cephas = "ROCK" in Aramaic.

other Simon (the Canaanite, the Zealot [very religious, very faction-loving, very motivated by loyalty])

Thomas = Aramic for twin, exact copy, (of whom?)
Didymus = Greek for twin, exact copy (of whom?)

Phillip = from philippos "horselover" meaning "NOBLE" as in Knight, Horseman, or even our modern "COWBOY" similar to "Hippocrates" which meant "Power/Strength of/with Horses".

Andrew biological brother of Simon/Peter, "Andreus" meaning "MANLY" "brave", "strong", "courageous", and "warrior".

Nathaniel = "El has given" GODGIFT same as Jonathan which is "Yah-gift/given" same as Matthew "giving-Yah" from Natan/Mattan which is "gift or giving"
Bartholomew = "son of Tholomew" which is "son of Talmaius" which is "son of Ptolemy" which is "son of Polemus" or "son of war" therefore WARSON.




...
Saul = "ask/question/inquire/research/investigate"
Paul = "small/humble/meek/patient/long-suffering"

Luke = Greek name, not yet linked to Hebrew. "loukas." it meant "of the meadow/pasture/grassland/field"
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-02-2019, 06:22 PM
 
11,958 posts, read 4,570,115 times
Reputation: 1273
I am sticking with a distribution system.

Hollywood makes the movie then copies are sent out to all the theaters to watch.

They didn't have movies back then. stories were written and they they were copied to be sent out to the many towns for the people to listen to. Mathew, mark, Luke, and john where just the copies that survived.

toss in the notion of 'whisper down the lane" ... poof.

Can you imaging if all technology were lost. people a million years in the future found a dvd of the transformers and played it?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-03-2019, 08:16 AM
 
36,542 posts, read 9,867,774 times
Reputation: 4926
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arach Angle View Post
I am sticking with a distribution system.

Hollywood makes the movie then copies are sent out to all the theaters to watch.

They didn't have movies back then. stories were written and they they were copied to be sent out to the many towns for the people to listen to. Mathew, mark, Luke, and john where just the copies that survived.

toss in the notion of 'whisper down the lane" ... poof.

Can you imaging if all technology were lost. people a million years in the future found a dvd of the transformers and played it?
You can stick with whatever you like. Nobody cares, other than Mystic who will praise anyone who bashes atheists.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-03-2019, 09:59 AM
 
Location: WV and Eastport, ME
10,752 posts, read 10,702,389 times
Reputation: 7173
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arach Angle View Post
so much chit chat and not one reason to believe a guy died, rose, and went where ever for our sins.

the four gospels remind me of the transformer move series that people take as, well, gospel.
Have you got any evidence that the Transformer movies are being taken as "Gospel?"
__________________
Moderator posts are in RED.
City-Data Terms of Service: http://www.city-data.com/terms.html
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-03-2019, 04:27 PM
 
9,641 posts, read 12,327,555 times
Reputation: 3481
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Diogenes View Post
Except Paul says Jesus appeared to the twelve. It is as if he did not know the story about Judas.
What did Paul mean by "the twelve"? (Support your answer.)
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-04-2019, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Germany
3,609 posts, read 665,386 times
Reputation: 583
Quote:
Originally Posted by OzzyRules View Post
What did Paul mean by "the twelve"? (Support your answer.)
Good question. What did Paul mean by "the twelve"? It can not be the disciples, because according to the gospels and Acts, there were only 11 disciples between Judas killing himself and Jesus going to heaven.

1 Corinthians 15 New International Version (NIV)

3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that he appeared to Cephas, and then to the Twelve. 6 After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7 Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, 8 and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born.

Why, it is like Paul did not know anything about Jesus as described in the gospels.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-04-2019, 05:28 PM
 
9,641 posts, read 12,327,555 times
Reputation: 3481
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Diogenes View Post
Good question. What did Paul mean by "the twelve"? It can not be the disciples, because according to the gospels and Acts, there were only 11 disciples between Judas killing himself and Jesus going to heaven.

1 Corinthians 15 New International Version (NIV)

3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that he appeared to Cephas, and then to the Twelve. 6 After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7 Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, 8 and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born.

Why, it is like Paul did not know anything about Jesus as described in the gospels.
If there were no gospels written, then what would they have been? The 12 tribes? I'm just wondering.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-04-2019, 06:11 PM
 
11,958 posts, read 4,570,115 times
Reputation: 1273
Quote:
Originally Posted by TRANSPONDER View Post
You can stick with whatever you like. Nobody cares, other than Mystic who will praise anyone who bashes atheists.
lmao ... real mature there trans.

like we said, it seems you are emotionally tied to your statement of belief about god. us regular atheist are not really emotionally tied to statement of belief about god. we just don't have one.

lmao, you don't care, thats funny.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-04-2019, 06:17 PM
 
11,958 posts, read 4,570,115 times
Reputation: 1273
Quote:
Originally Posted by mensaguy View Post
Have you got any evidence that the Transformer movies are being taken as "Gospel?"
correction.

the four gospels remind me of the what it might look like if the transformer move series were taken as gospels.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality
Similar Threads
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2019, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top