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Old 03-11-2019, 09:42 PM
 
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It's like marrying someone for their money and saying now you got what you wanted you have no intention of spending time with the person you married.

You care about yourself but not about the other being in the relationship.
That’s the problem.

You are looking at “human to human” relationship and comparing it with “human to God” relationship, thinking that they are both the same.
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Old 03-12-2019, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Once you are in - there is no more obligation of worshiping. You have done your part in this life, and that's enough.
Good to know. I'm relieved to know that I don't need to be buried in my sunday bests.
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Old 03-12-2019, 06:39 PM
 
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A bit like the Muslims? You abstain from the sauce in this life so you can sink it by the bucket in the next.
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Old 03-12-2019, 06:44 PM
 
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I was drug into this stupid world without any say, why should I have to continue the <<bleep>> when it's over? I say heaven should be nothing but bliss, no work.

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Old 03-12-2019, 07:41 PM
 
Location: City-Data Forum
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What's the Jewish and Christian belief on this?

In the Islamic Heaven, no there is no more worship of God in heaven.

Once you are in - there is no more obligation of worshiping. You have done your part in this life, and that's enough.
Certainly, the robot deities/gods/immortal-beings (angels) worship human-kind (or men only?) in heaven for eternity. Is that not the myth in most versions of the Quran and/or popular Hadiths?
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Old 03-12-2019, 09:08 PM
 
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Certainly, the robot deities/gods/immortal-beings (angels) worship human-kind (or men only?) in heaven for eternity. Is that not the myth in most versions of the Quran and/or popular Hadiths?
No.
There is nothing in Quran or Hadeeth, that I know of, which indicates any obligatory worship by anyone IN heaven.

Heaven has no works or duties or responsibilities, or obligations on its human residents - otherwise it wouldn’t be heaven.
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Old 03-13-2019, 03:22 AM
 
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I was drug into this stupid world without any say, why should I have to continue the <<bleep>> when it's over? I say heaven should be nothing but bliss, no work.
Expressed in a more crude way but you pretty much got the gist of it.

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Old 03-13-2019, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA
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May be thatís your concept of heaven, however, if God himself tells you that you have done your part and you have done enough - and now you are NOT obliged to worship anymore.
Itís now my turn to reward you for your efforts - then THAT sounds more like a heaven.
What kinda heaven would that be where you are still obliged to worship (and to top it off, there is no sex either)?
I mean, what if u donít worship in heaven? Will your God kick you out of heaven?

This is an odd concept..."obliged to worship".
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Old 03-13-2019, 08:34 PM
 
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No.
There is nothing in Quran or Hadeeth, that I know of, which indicates any obligatory worship by anyone IN heaven.

Heaven has no works or duties or responsibilities, or obligations on its human residents - otherwise it wouldn’t be heaven.
Oh really? I could have sworn a very honest Muslim told me that God commanded Iblis (satan) and the Angels to worship Adam. At least is prostration is considered a type of worship.

BTW, Adam just means "red/clay" and "man" in ancient Hebrew, no?
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Old 03-13-2019, 09:43 PM
 
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Oh really? I could have sworn a very honest Muslim told me that God commanded Iblis (satan) and the Angels to worship Adam. At least is prostration is considered a type of worship.

BTW, Adam just means "red/clay" and "man" in ancient Hebrew, no?
You are on a totally different page - yet wrong nonetheless.

Please read my comments again in post # 16

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Heaven has no works or duties or responsibilities, or obligations on its human residents - otherwise it wouldn’t be heaven.

You are incorrect on two counts (sorry don't mean to sound crude).

First, I said HUMANS are not obliged to worship anymore in Heaven. And what you are saying is, Satan was asked to prostrate to Adam. Yes Prostration is a major form of worship *BUT* is Satan a HUMAN? No!

Second. I am talking about people who have lived a life on earth, who have tried to do good works, tried to stay away from bad deeds, tried to live a morally conscious and peaceful life, and tried to stay within the boundaries described by God - which then lead them to enter into heaven, those people have no obligation to worship God anymore, after they are entered in heaven.

What you are saying is, an altogether different incident, yet it is still wrong because a human was not asked to worship or pray in heaven.

In the Christian doctrine, I think the human residents of heaven mostly do nothing but worship God - if that pleases you?

And since I am not an expert of ancient Hebrew, I can't answer your question about the name "Adam". Google could be your best friend.
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