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I have gone down this path before but have yet to get a meaningful much less believable, response. So, in the hopes that somebody can come up with something I proceed.
The premise of the existence of a god is a hugely-outlandish story complete with such things as heaven, hell, angels, devils, eternal life and a whole bunch more elements that are not in the least visible to the naked eye. Great floods, Garden of Eden on and on.
Much of this story is based on religious dogma contained in the bible, notably the "story" of the beginnings of the Universe including the speck of dust we live on, orbiting a small spark we call the sun.
Over the centuries much has been discovered about the true nature of our planet, solar system, galaxy and universe and virtually-all of it contradicts dogma. At the very least nothing of significance has been found to support the dogma.
So I ask if anyone has any evidence (demonstrable and on-point) that the story of god etc., is true. Any evidence at all. IF you do, please provide it in following posts if you would be so kind.
I have gone down this path before but have yet to get a meaningful much less believable, response. So, in the hopes that somebody can come up with something I proceed.
The premise of the existence of a god is a hugely-outlandish story complete with such things as heaven, hell, angels, devils, eternal life and a whole bunch more elements that are not in the least visible to the naked eye. Great floods, Garden of Eden on and on.
Much of this story is based on religious dogma contained in the bible, notably the "story" of the beginnings of the Universe including the speck of dust we live on, orbiting a small spark we call the sun.
Over the centuries much has been discovered about the true nature of our planet, solar system, galaxy and universe and virtually-all of it contradicts dogma. At the very least nothing of significance has been found to support the dogma.
So I ask if anyone has any evidence (demonstrable and on-point) that the story of god etc., is true. Any evidence at all. IF you do, please provide it in following posts if you would be so kind.
It has been explained...those writings are metaphorical and allegorical representations of things as best they knew them to be back then over a thousand years ago.
Anyone thinking it's all literal is mistaken. Though, I have no problem if anyone does.
OTOH...they are the most epic, prolific, and influential writings in all of human history...just how they are, that's "The Beef".
And those that take issue with that, and are bothered enough by it to interrogate the faithful over their Beliefs, may as well just spit into a strong wind, or try to stop the tide from coming in.
It has been explained...those writings are metaphorical and allegorical representations of things as best they knew them to be back then over a thousand years ago.
Anyone thinking it's all literal is mistaken. Though, I have no problem if anyone does.
OTOH...they are the most epic, prolific, and influential writings in all of human history...just how they are, that's "The Beef".
And those that take issue with that, and are bothered enough by it to interrogate the faithful over their Beliefs, may as well just spit into a strong wind, or try to stop the tide from coming in.
You have only a western perspective regarding this.
It has been explained...those writings are metaphorical and allegorical representations of things as best they knew them to be back then over a thousand years ago.
Anyone thinking it's all literal is mistaken. Though, I have no problem if anyone does.
OTOH...they are the most epic, prolific, and influential writings in all of human history...just how they are, that's "The Beef".
And those that take issue with that, and are bothered enough by it to interrogate the faithful over their Beliefs, may as well just spit into a strong wind, or try to stop the tide from coming in.
With all respect, very few people consider such things as Genesis to be allegorical, so your response, while appreciated, holds no water.
So I ask again, where's the "beef" (evidence).
It is interesting, however, to note, that you have admitted, sort of, that the bible is of no referential value, being relegated to a philosophical role only. Not many christians would agree with you, though.
In any case your response doesn't provide evidence, it just discounts the bible, which sort of supports my position, sort of.
Doesn't matter.
The minority isn't always either...and what is "right" is largely subjective.
But what the majority typically is...powerful, influential, dominant, ruling.
Abrahamic Religion has had as much influence on this world as just about any elective concept, ever. THAT'S "The Beef".
Moderator, please note smarmy attitude in this post. He just EDUCATED me!! I must insist he be banned for his insolence. He is as bad or worse than Mystic.
He has a record of thumbing his nose at attempts by moderators to keep his posting between the rails, and this is just another attempt.
Condescending BS. If you wonder why these discussions devolve into name-calling, well, you see if real time in his post.
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