You're born, you live, you die. Then what? I like this perspective! (soul, church)
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And reality and I -- we don't share the same values, the same goals -
To be honest, I don't have goals; I have fantasies. They're exactly like goals but without the hard work.
True that.
I don't get that. I don't understand -- to me, it's disrespectful. It's disrespectful to nature. The idea that we're going to dominate nature, we're going to master nature, nature is too weak to withstand our intellect -- no, I don't think so.
The above makes sense to me. I never understood how the people in my group could throw away their life as "not good enough, they're must be more...I deserve more." They can't even appreciate what they have. If reality didn't contain death then we wouldn't even have had this chance to begin with.
Those were my two favorite quotes as well. Especially the first one.
I have a different view of what death is then someone who doesn't think our consciousness continues in some form, but I can still appreciate much of what she said.
Those were my two favorite quotes as well. Especially the first one.
I have a different view of what death is then someone who doesn't think our consciousness continues in some form, but I can still appreciate much of what she said.
It's a possibility to me that whatever comprises consciousness could be broken down and reassembled too.
So, you might say it’s a sense of connectedness to all that is which gives you a feeling of ... peace or contentment or even joy?
The short answer is yes. It certainly gives me a sense of awe that the atoms that comprise of me have been around for a long, long time, perhaps even since the start of this universe, and will exist long after I, and this earth and solar system, are gone. Who knows where they will end up, or in whom they will journey through?
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Do you, like the woman in the video, feel that if your consciousness did in some form continue beyond your physical death, that it would somehow cheapen or devalue the life you are now living?
I think it's an illusion to think our consciousness exists outside of our physical reality. Would I like to believe it could? You bet! I could imagine myself going on a never ending discovery of the cosmos, constantly learning. That would be my heaven, but I don't see that as a reality.
This points to NDEs as being cultural products of the brain more than to them being real.
If you would spend more than two seconds trying to explain what are NOT products of the brain more than them being real, the real issues you sweep under your materialist rug to simplify things for your mind might lead to real enlightenment.
The short answer is yes. It certainly gives me a sense of awe that the atoms that comprise of me have been around for a long, long time, perhaps even since the start of this universe, and will exist long after I, and this earth and solar system, are gone. Who knows where they will end up, or in whom they will journey through?
I think it's an illusion to think our consciousness exists outside of our physical reality. Would I like to believe it could? You bet! I could imagine myself going on a never ending discovery of the cosmos, constantly learning. That would be my heaven, but I don't see that as a reality.
Okay, thanks. That's my idea of heaven, too. Whether one believes it's a reality or not, even having this lifetime to do that is good stuff.
If you would spend more than two seconds trying to explain what are NOT products of the brain more than them being real, the real issues you sweep under your materialist rug to simplify things for your mind might lead to real enlightenment.
Your English is bad. Do you want me to talk about something irrelevant to my point (anything but products of the brain), or do you want me contradict myself (products of the brain are not products of the brain)?
Either way, your irrelevant 'real issues' will only lead to enlightment about your ability to produce BS.
If you would spend more than two seconds trying to explain what are NOT products of the brain more than them being real, the real issues you sweep under your materialist rug to simplify things for your mind might lead to real enlightenment.
Mystic, is it time to turn your name to "Cryptic phd"? Did anybody understand what he posted? "what are NOT products of the brain more than them being real,"
(cue) 'it only made no sense to those without intelligence'. So, don't be tempted, Mystic.
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Your English is bad. Do you want me to talk about something irrelevant to my point (anything but products of the brain), or do you want me contradict myself (products of the brain are not products of the brain)?
Either way, your irrelevant 'real issues' will only lead to enlightment about your ability to produce BS.
His English is fine. What the problem is, I can't imagine.
The short answer is yes. It certainly gives me a sense of awe that the atoms that comprise of me have been around for a long, long time, perhaps even since the start of this universe, and will exist long after I, and this earth and solar system, are gone. Who knows where they will end up, or in whom they will journey through?
I think it's an illusion to think our consciousness exists outside of our physical reality. Would I like to believe it could? You bet! I could imagine myself going on a never-ending discovery of the cosmos, constantly learning. That would be my heaven, but I don't see that as a reality.
In what part of our existing reality does your imagination about this neverending discovery NOT actually exist as a reality? Things you imagine can violate every existing known law of physics and chemistry, etc. that govern our reality. What does that say about the transcendence of our consciousness over our reality? What does that say about the transcendence of consciousness, period?
In what part of our existing reality does your imagination about this neverending discovery NOT actually exist as a reality? Things you imagine can violate every existing known law of physics and chemistry, etc. that govern our reality. What does that say about the transcendence of our consciousness over our reality? What does that say about the transcendence of consciousness, period?
Mystic, what planet are you living on? Primitive man imagined beings -some like animals - that could do the things we'd love to, but couldn't. What does that tell us about reality other than we are great at telling fantasy -stories? In case you were wondering about reality, check out the definition:
"Reality - that which Mystic appears to be losing his grip on".
Mystic, is it time to turn your name to "Cryptic phd"? Did anybody understand what he posted? "what are NOT products of the brain more than them being real,"
(cue) 'it only made no sense to those without intelligence'. So, don't be tempted, Mystic.
He either wants me to NOT talk about the products of the brain, or he wants me to say products of the brain are NOT products of the brain. It took me some time to understand because it is ambiguous.
He then wants to talk about the real issues, whatever they are (milk before or after tea, maybe?) which are somehow irrelevant to what I was talking about.
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Whether one believes it's a reality or not, even having this lifetime to do that is good stuff.
