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Old 03-27-2019, 09:28 AM
 
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The Bible is quite credible. It even predicted to the very day when Israel would become a nation again in 1948.
Except it did not.

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If you reject the Bible then you must also reject any historical document from ancient history.
Because you have very bad evidence, we must reject very good evidence? That is not a compelling argument.

 
Old 03-27-2019, 09:30 AM
 
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Fundies have a twisted value system.

Giving the LGBT the same rights as jeff = Very, very bad!

Non-Christians being toasted in hell for eternity = God's loving, merciful will be done.
But do not forget that Jeff once argued any loving relationship was bad.
 
Old 03-27-2019, 09:31 AM
 
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Except it did not.



Because you have very bad evidence, we must reject very good evidence? That is not a compelling argument.
Blanket statements are not a compelling argument. How about you back it up for once? Show me specific details how other historical writings are more valid than the Bible in that time period. And you can't use archaeology because there is plenty of archaeological finds that support the Bible's narrative.
 
Old 03-27-2019, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Nope, I just demonstrated how atheists can always provide a shut down explanation for anything. Always an escape route because you are too afraid to accept the reality that God exists and you will die and be accountable for your sins.
When you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that god exists, I will accept that.
 
Old 03-27-2019, 09:42 AM
 
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Fundies have a twisted value system.

Giving the LGBT the same rights as jeff = Very, very bad!

Non-Christians being toasted in hell for eternity = God's loving, merciful will be done.
Once again, you try to force homosexuality into the conversation. Just more proof that you and your cronies are the ones obsessed with LGBT, not me.



Atheists twisted value system


Claim majority belief is a fallacy and completely invalid yet believe majority opinion on moral issues outside of Christianity is perfectly fine.

Claim that mocking a person is a good thing and should be encouraged

Claim that God's people and churches are a great cancer and ill on society even though it is the churches that contribute the most directly in helping people during times of tragedy and personal difficulties.

Will accept any study without question if the findings are negative against religion or Christianity specifically.
 
Old 03-27-2019, 09:44 AM
 
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Blanket statements are not a compelling argument.
True but there is a wealth of evidence out there for the honest person to investigate.

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How about you back it up for once?
For once? You mean AGAIN. Why DO Christians suffer from short memories on forums?

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Show me specific details how other historical writings are more valid than the Bible in that time period.
Which time period, the Bible was written over a time period of about 1,000 years?

But let us look at the gospels. Written in a literary format, NOT written in the format of a history; plagiarize earlier gospels; rewrites and therefore contradicts on theological grounds; not supported by Christian letters written in the first century AD (and found in the NT); NOT written by eye witnesses; NO independent corroboration; heavily based on the OT; the list goes on.

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And you can't use archaeology because there is plenty of archaeological finds that support the Bible's narrative.
There is SOME archaeological evidence for SOME Bible stories. And even that contradicts the OT version. There is much more that REFUTES the Bible. Such as cities allegedly being built by men who had died 200 years earlier. 3 million people spending 40 years in the desert but leaving ZERO evidence. Yahweh having a wife. But typical Jeff will ignore the evidence he does not like and cherry pick the few that he thinks does support his position.
 
Old 03-27-2019, 09:48 AM
 
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Once again, you try to force homosexuality into the conversation. Just more proof that you and your cronies are the ones obsessed with LGBT, not me.
No, along with the second part you forgot to mention, it was a demonstration of your twisted values.

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Atheists twisted value system
Yet it was you that misrepresented the post.

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Claim majority belief is a fallacy and completely invalid yet believe majority opinion on moral issues outside of Christianity is perfectly fine.
Truth hurts, eh?

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Claim that God's people and churches are a great cancer and ill on society even though it is the churches that contribute the most directly in helping people during times of tragedy and personal difficulties.
Another assertion that ignores the evidence.

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Will accept any study without question if the findings are negative against religion or Christianity specifically.
'Without question' is one more misrepresentation from you.
 
Old 03-27-2019, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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There is compelling evidence out there. Atheists are just too stubborn to accept it. If we shine the light of truth, atheists scramble to throw a blanket on it. Atheists demand undeniable parameters because that is the only way they can always create the illusion that they won the argument for evidence.
You are sort of a one trick pony. I will remind you -- once again -- that many of us atheists were christians earlier in our lives. A FACT that you conveniently ignore. Or if you don't ignore it, you insinuate that we weren't "real" christians. That's stubbornness. This isn't about winning an argument. I'm now Buddhist. I don't demand that you accept Buddhism and use that as your form of worship. In fact, I don't want someone like you as a Buddhist.
 
Old 03-27-2019, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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The Bible is quite credible. It even predicted to the very day when Israel would become a nation again in 1948. If you reject the Bible then you must also reject any historical document from ancient history.
To you it's credible. To others it is not.

I reject many documents from history as being accurate...unless there are other supporting documents.
 
Old 03-27-2019, 03:43 PM
 
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The Bible is quite credible. It even predicted to the very day when Israel would become a nation again in 1948. If you reject the Bible then you must also reject any historical document from ancient history.
Where? Seriously, where did you find that?
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