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Old 03-29-2019, 10:33 PM
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Falun Gong believe they're persecuted, but irl, nobody in China actually cares about them. As for why they're considered bad, Scientology doesn't claim to have secrecy either. They're related to the cult-like white lotus religions which are known for that stuff.
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Old 03-31-2019, 04:14 AM
 
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Well that was fast. The second link down was "is it a cult'? That's a sure sign it is.
You have verybizarre standards of proof, amigo.
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Old 04-01-2019, 09:04 AM
 
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You have verybizarre standards of proof, amigo.
Um it's amiga for a woman.
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Old 04-01-2019, 05:11 PM
 
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You have verybizarre standards of proof, amigo.
Test my theory. Go to the website of any religion you think of as a cult and see if they address that issue.
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Old 04-13-2019, 08:07 PM
 
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I've seen the Falun Gong protests in NYC. Don't really understand it exactly. They are usually in a group doing some odd yoga-type things with slow arm movements as part of the religion.


Falun dafa is a practice of cultivating the mind and body so there will be exercises too. Those are Falun dafa exercises. There are five of them, four of them are slow gentle movements similar to yoga and Tai chi. The fifth exercises is a sitting meditation they do in stillness. Practitioners usually do them while protesting. I think they like to show people how the exercises look.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KtN...9iUmoR&index=1





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUQN...iUmoR&index=11
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Old 04-13-2019, 08:11 PM
 
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Test my theory. Go to the website of any religion you think of as a cult and see if they address that issue.


Please remember Falun dafa is being framed and persecuted by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and Jiang Zemin's former regime. The practice had a peaceful growth during the 90s. A little after 1999 persecution the CCP start labelling it a 'evil cult', and stigmatized it. There are no reports of the bad things outside China. It is practiced in other countries without problems. The CCP likes to trample on human rights like freedom of belief and religion. Falun dafa also have lots of proclamations


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Old 04-13-2019, 08:17 PM
 
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There are allegations that the Communist Party in China were harvesting organs from prisoners of conscience in the past. That it has been done for a long period of time involving a large-scale number of innocents. The waiting times are extremely short and at times even vital organs are booked in advance. The victims are primarily people who follow the Buddha School practice of Falun Gong, along with Uyghur Muslims (a Turkic ethnic group currently being detained in vast numbers in the Xinjiang region), Tibetan Buddhists and potentially House Church Christians.

Incriminating Phone Calls: Doctors Admit to Live Harvesting of Falun Gong Adherents' Organs in China
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Old 04-13-2019, 08:25 PM
 
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Please remember Falun dafa is being framed and persecuted by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and Jiang Zemin's former regime. The practice had a peaceful growth during the 90s. A little after 1999 persecution the CCP start labelling it a 'evil cult', and stigmatized it. There are no reports of the bad things outside China. It is practiced in other countries without problems. The CCP likes to trample on human rights like freedom of belief and religion. Falun dafa also have lots of proclamations


Does Li Hongzhi have any special insights or powers?
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Old 04-13-2019, 10:21 PM
 
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Please remember Falun dafa is being framed and persecuted by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and Jiang Zemin's former regime. The practice had a peaceful growth during the 90s. A little after 1999 persecution the CCP start labelling it a 'evil cult', and stigmatized it. There are no reports of the bad things outside China. It is practiced in other countries without problems. The CCP likes to trample on human rights like freedom of belief and religion. Falun dafa also have lots of proclamations


What does the Chinese Constitution say about new religious movements? Not allowed. They are at minimum weird and thus "disruptive."

Do you think that new religious movements rights to practice new things outweighs the rights of a whole country's political system to manufacture a "socially stabilizing" Constitution?

Atheists groups should get as many benefits as religious ones. Old religious groups as much as new ones. So when is a new religion a legal religion? In the USA, it is when the State and its legal courts decide.
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Old 04-13-2019, 10:34 PM
 
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There are allegations that the Communist Party in China were harvesting organs from prisoners of conscience in the past. That it has been done for a long period of time involving a large-scale number of innocents. The waiting times are extremely short and at times even vital organs are booked in advance. The victims are primarily people who follow the Buddha School practice of Falun Gong, along with Uyghur Muslims (a Turkic ethnic group currently being detained in vast numbers in the Xinjiang region), Tibetan Buddhists and potentially House Church Christians.

Incriminating Phone Calls: Doctors Admit to Live Harvesting of Falun Gong Adherents' Organs in China
Allegations are easy to make, especially by those that need them. The Communist Party in China is a Political Party. It has as much need to "harvest organs" as the Democratic Party or Republican Party in the United States. That is, to the extent that they care about sick people that need those organs.

Given this, if organs were being harvested from the dead bodies of prisoners (which would come at risk to the recipients) there would be plenty of evidence, and such a conspiracy would be difficult to keep under wraps (it would be quickly and EVIDENTLY uncovered).

Even in the United States you are supposed to book vital organs in advance since they are vital and require expedited transfer upon death. You are complaining that the waiting times are too short? They are vital, I repeat, vital organs.

How are the "victims" rounded up? During their illegal protests (given that the constitution only protects "traditional" Buddhist sects)? How then are their Falun Gong not keeping careful track of their own members with evidence to back it up. What are Chinese prisons allowed to do anything they want to live prisoners and dead prisoner's bodies? I doubt it. That would be an extremely odd power to grant to the Government.

The Xinjiang region of The People's Republic of China is majority Turkic Uyghur Muslims, hence their jails would be filled with majority Muslims as well.
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