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Old 05-24-2019, 09:35 PM
 
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Social sciences do not have the burden of clarity nor the rigor that the hard sciences have. Chemistry, physics, biology, and derivatives.
How do you apply the scientific method in a social science setting? The best it can do is develop hypothesis, you know, sort of like religion.
That is an extraordinarily myopic view of science. The scientific method always involves statistics and probabilities of error which are applicable to most areas of inquiry.
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Old 05-24-2019, 10:27 PM
 
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That is an extraordinarily myopic view of science. The scientific method always involves statistics and probabilities of error which are applicable to most areas of inquiry.
I'm well aware of that. BTW, probabilities of error ARE part of statistics. Why the double double?
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Old 05-24-2019, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I've lost friends and relatives who died too young. We prayed but that didn't magically save them. Yet we did not lose any faith because of that.
So you admit that prayer does not work. You're making progress.
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Old 05-24-2019, 11:28 PM
 
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So you admit that prayer does not work. You're making progress.
Correct. Your definition doesn't work.
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Old 05-24-2019, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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I've lost friends and relatives who died too young. We prayed but that didn't magically save them. Yet we did not lose any faith because of that.
Still waiting for you to explain WHY anyone would decide what is true by using a method that can be proven to be THE MOST UNRELIABLE method of deciding what is true.
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Old 05-24-2019, 11:47 PM
 
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I've lost friends and relatives who died too young. We prayed but that didn't magically save them. Yet we did not lose any faith because of that.
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So you admit that prayer does not work. You're making progress.
It's a bit like saying "I know this key to my front door doesn't work but I don't blame the key. I still trust the key will open my front door someday. I blame the way I incorrectly try to turn the key in the lock."
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Old 05-25-2019, 12:50 AM
 
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I'm well aware of that. BTW, probabilities of error ARE part of statistics. Why the double double?
Because those unfamiliar with science and the use of statistics generally consider statistics to just mean data and usually data that can be interpreted in disingenuous ways. The old saw is probative: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." If I were to infer things about your knowledge as you do to me, I could consider this a sign that you are ignorant about science and statistics.
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Old 05-25-2019, 04:46 AM
 
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So you admit that prayer does not work. You're making progress.
specific types of prayer don't work.

You can't say that all prayer doesn't work ... that claim is false.
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Old 05-25-2019, 08:51 AM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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I've lost friends and relatives who died too young. We prayed but that didn't magically save them. Yet we did not lose any faith because of that.
I
Faith in what, exactly? You have repeatedly acknowledged that Jesus' promise is not true.
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Old 05-25-2019, 12:12 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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Correct. Your definition doesn't work.
Your definition isn't what the Gospels teach.
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