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Old 03-30-2019, 02:03 PM
 
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The Internet was the final nail in the coffin of Christianity. The net opened the truth about the shady underhanded dealings of the church and its corrupt leadership to the entire world. People now can research such topics as "Jesus never existed" and "Ten Reasons The Gospels Are Works of Fiction" and get the complete lowdown on Christianity's nefarious creation.

SC3PTICS: Literary Traditions: Ten Reasons the Gospels are Works of Fiction
Good source and article. Concise, yet very relevant. Perhaps BatistFundie should read it before proclaiming any "truth" knowledge?
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Old 03-30-2019, 02:51 PM
 
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Good source and article. Concise, yet very relevant. Perhaps BatistFundie should read it before proclaiming any "truth" knowledge?
Here is a vid by Non-Stamp Collector that is hilarious and blows up the "no contradictions in the bible" in a mere 10 minutes.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB3g6mXLEKk
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Old 03-30-2019, 03:07 PM
 
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Here is a vid by Non-Stamp Collector that is hilarious and blows up the "no contradictions in the bible" in a mere 10 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB3g6mXLEKk
It's BOTH yes and no!
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Old 03-30-2019, 06:46 PM
 
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This study deals with the USA. Why bring up an assertion that is totally irrelevant to the topic?
Yes...I noted the USA...and about its status relative to the base issue in your OP.
Your OP put forth much more of a topic than just the study...in that you made a lot of statements about the mental acumen of those that are Religious, compared to those that are not.
Wanted to make sure that it was understood that (since you suggested that Religious Belief equated to a lack of value in "sanity") the "anomaly" in this equation is "this study that deals with the USA"...as respects the assessment of the "real 'good news'" about a "step toward rational thinking".
Many times people get trapped in their little box...and they look around within it and think that is representative of how things are overall. They point to localized trends, and possibly use them to erroneously determine how things are moving for the whole.
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Old 03-30-2019, 06:52 PM
 
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I have seen many None-style sentiments which are essentially what I would call Liberal Christianity. Or even just non-denominational Christianity. That is mixed in with the atheists and agnostics.

Also, I don't really see Evangelicals declining from that particular graph.
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Old 03-30-2019, 07:08 PM
 
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Yes...I noted the USA...and about its status relative to the base issue in your OP.
Your OP put forth much more of a topic than just the study...in that you made a lot of statements about the mental acumen of those that are Religious, compared to those that are not.
Wanted to make sure that it was understood that (since you suggested that Religious Belief equated to a lack of value in "sanity") the "anomaly" in this equation is "this study that deals with the USA"...as respects the assessment of the "real 'good news'" about a "step toward rational thinking".
Many times people get trapped in their little box...and they look around within it and think that is representative of how things are overall. They point to localized trends, and possibly use them to erroneously determine how things are moving for the whole.
Rational thinking includes wanting to know as much as is true, and rejecting as much that is not. It looks for proofs over faith. It rejects cognitive dissonance. Hence my statement that not all nones are atheists or agnostics, as much as I would like to believe that.
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Old 03-30-2019, 07:09 PM
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I have seen many None-style sentiments which are essentially what I would call Liberal Christianity. Or even just non-denominational Christianity. That is mixed in with the atheists and agnostics.

Also, I don't really see Evangelicals declining from that particular graph.
I've learned there's a lot you don't see.
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Old 03-30-2019, 07:10 PM
 
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I'm also curious about the Catholic-to-Evangelical shift which occurred in the early 90's. That was around the time that Sinead O'Connor tore up a picture of the Pope on live TV.
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Old 03-30-2019, 07:10 PM
 
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I have seen many None-style sentiments which are essentially what I would call Liberal Christianity. Or even just non-denominational Christianity. That is mixed in with the atheists and agnostics.

Also, I don't really see Evangelicals declining from that particular graph.
So Evangelicals coming from a high of about 30% to in 1990 to about 23% is not a decline? Really? It sure the heck is not flatlined.
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Old 03-30-2019, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Western Washington
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And what is truth? Truth to you is Christianity. Truth to somebody else is science, Buddhism, atheism, etc.
No, what you are describing is belief, not truth. Truth is a statement that agrees with reality.

It is true that the earth is round. It can be measured, calculated, circumnavigated, photographed, etc. Some people believe that truth, others believe that it is flat. When a flat-earthier describes their belief as truth, it doesn’t mean they are correct. It simply means they are using the word truth incorrectly.
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