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Old 04-22-2019, 05:43 AM
 
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God is nothing BUT unjust if you're following Christian dogma.

He left no reliable proof of his son's visit to earth. No historians mention him. Even the two Josephus passages are mired in controversy. Yet He wants us to believe in His son as our savior sight unseen--strictly on faith!

Jesus = 3 hours of relatively bad pain then he came back to life to bring us salvation.

Us = eternal (never-ending) most unimaginably excruciating torment in fire for thought crime of rejecting Jesus

There's nothing the slightest bit just about such a horribly lop-sided verdict against humans for a senseless thought crime when they haven't the slightest bit of evidence to support their acceptance of Jesus or their denial of him. Crass stupidity. And yes, that's the Christian faith--in what, I wonder.
christian dogma has some flaws in its presentation. a biblegod may choose sides based on t-shirt colors , a universal god does not. if it exists that is.
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Old 04-22-2019, 02:32 PM
 
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John the Baptist said to the crowd who came to him, "You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath?"

Jesus was actually the wrath of God to those who do not accept His word.. That is why Christianity is so divided

Is Christianity under His wrath?

"A kingdom divided cannot stand. "
“Jesus was actually the wrath of God to those who do not accept His word.”

Hmmm - so did Jesus’s own mother and all 12 of his disciples accept his word?
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Old 04-22-2019, 06:52 PM
 
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“Jesus was actually the wrath of God to those who do not accept His word.”

Hmmm - so did Jesus’s own mother and all 12 of his disciples accept his word?
The "12 apostles" were actually 13 or 14 or 15. For example, Paul calls himself a "late apostle." And Judas who led the way for the salvation of all Christians through human-theo-sacrificd, was also one of the 12 disciples before he was replaced by the second Matthew.

In Christianity, Judas committed suicide or was killed by the wrath of God either because he "never truly believed" or he "changed his mind selfishly" or he "changed his mind due to disillusion" so he died not "accepting Jesus as the Messiah."

In Catholicism, they did (eventually), even his mother definitively converted to Jesus' beliefs about the correct Judaism, and his acceptance (in accordance to Paul) of nonJews getting chosen to receive equal benefits as biological Jews and "correctly converted" Jews. In Protestantism, his mother can be disrespected with ignorance, because Paul and THEN Jesus are more important than her. One passage had him disown his biological mother and sisters who questioned why he was rabble rousing like the atheists do. But the assumption in Protestantism is still that since God would only choose a good Jewish girl as his cheap and clean uterus, then she eventually converted, especially since the angels talked to her about his rising and she was numbered among the believers later.
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Old 04-22-2019, 09:02 PM
 
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God poured out his wrath on Jesus. Yes, Jesus will come back to judge those that don't trust and repent, but I'd hardly call him the "wrath of God" now.

Bottom line is, no one who loves God will be sent to Hell. Those that love God will do as God commands -- believe in Jesus. God is not an unjust God who sends innocents to hell.
Such a despicable belief and shameful worship of a manmade tyrannical monster. Again, you prove humanity is still primitive.
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Old Yesterday, 12:45 AM
 
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Such a despicable belief and shameful worship of a manmade tyrannical monster. Again, you prove humanity is still primitive.
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Old Yesterday, 04:03 AM
 
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When the Father opens up his into his bowlsof his wrath on this world..and pours out the wrath. I think Father is brought into it the fight Of all men against one man, Jesus.

I don't know exactly what man will do / done at that point but whatever it is I it think has to do with God's daughters. and Jesus own daughters ( isa 53)

we forget Jesus is a man and a perfect man .. The heavenly Father has become a grandfather by then.
His daughters and granddaughters .. And all their whole clan of women back all the way to Eve herself.. . Are what you all would call an angel.. thus Winged women. (Zec 5)

Zec 5:9

Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two( twined) women, and the wind ( the breath of God ) was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven.


his daughters are all twins.
His seed multiplied. yes
Sets of paternal twins..
And their clan is a women going all the way back to Eve !

A TOTAL OF I THINK 1800 WOMEN WITH WINGS, beautiful women from every nation 100 WOMEN X THREE SUKKAH per continent X 6 CONTINENTS, THUS 18 TABERNACLES OF THE RIGHTEOUS ( PS 118 AND ISA 24, JUST TO NAME A FEW scriptures ) . THOSE 18'S are TWINED, ( BY his churches ) 7 stars and 7 lampstands.. ....
WELL JEWS WILL GET THAT, IT IS THE NUMBER OF LIFE ITSELF. the very heart of Life ... the glory of God is the number of Channukah 18 +18 ..

But unlike the lawless.....these FATHER 'S love all their SEED ,and they love all their Daughters AND THEY REALLY LOVE THEIR DAUGHTER IN LAW ( REV 22) the wife.. the bethrothed .. Her name in Hebrew is translated usually as "rejoicing" or Joy ! the Father's JOY.. Just as Jesus name is translated as Salvation ( pslams 118).. a man and a woman empowered by the Father , it has been the plan since before creation started. King David's Child..a Superman and his wife and her 1800 Wonderwomen.
all their clan of righteous women.

Prophetesses and all rightful Queens ( if they ruled or not because it was stolen from them ) Queens of the nations by blood right inheritance.... women of the ages.. which includes the Queen of the South/ wind, Sheba herself with wings.. Oh she is quite the picture of beauty .... AND BATHSHEBA, MARY, and Elizabeth .. GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO EVE HERSELF!
OH Boy Eve , now she is something to behold !! She reminded me of that song.. you know that song.. "Pink Cadillac..." that is one beautiful Big Girl! put some Wings on her and a she is really big big big girl!! when men see that coming they will run. maybe she is that something about how they will smell them running away.. .
But she is oh so pretty.. But she will need a Cadillac !!
Here comes momma boys!! SHE IS GOING TO TEACH YOU RIGHTEOUSNESS !!

WHY IS IT THAT THE ONLY PERSON TO BE NAMED AS STANDING IN JUDGMENT.. AT THE JUDGMENT OF THE NATIONS IS A WOMAN? because rightfully and legally they are all owned by Women and their clans.. because Jesus has had the power of resurrection , SO He has had all the owners.. in his courts and collecting them all this time....

SO I THINK FATHER GOD COMES TO THE PARTY WHEN MEN DECIDE TO HURT any of His Angels.. his WOMEN AND or HIS DAUGHTER IN LAW OR JESUS OWN DAUGHTERS, who are bringing food to the righteous nations in that time. who are protecting the righteous converted in that time..people who gave up on men's current ways !

NO GOD'S WRATH IS NOT JESUS!

YES JESUS TAKES JERUSALEM and parts of his promised land.. HIMSELF, it is his actually! well I think it is really a Her's or some of the her's and probably all his daughters maybe, but we all gave it to him to defend. The land is and has always been called A" her" for reason, it looks like big vagina for a reason! the real boarders of the promised land.. is a giant woody for a reason.. and it will all be one fire for a good reason one day ..

only He has ever defended rightful and legal vaginas everywhere and provided for her seeds ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz81dIfwf4Y

so Back to the concepts of "the wrath of God" and such you all fear is probably them defending woman and their rights and lands and their property and their children ! as He did the first time He took the promised land from the thieves ( Mizraim/Menes/ Mengewi )and Canaanites who had stolen at the Great Kings beheadings , see Narmer's palette .

Which really the subject of " woman face "proves even so-called liberal and lawless men who pretend to support women.. have never really defended the woman. but They only defended what they benefited from... that was in order to make women lose was so that they get even cheaper imitation sex ( not love, what did love have to do with it ? )with no commitment and no responsibility to the seed They create and spread. this is what they did in order to get and or protect free and cheap vagina, so they pretend to honor woman except when it comes to woman face which proves their complete hypocrisy.

( so the liberal and the lawless man .. can't blame Jesus!! because he is going to support legal and rightful LOVE , legal and rightful vaginas, REALLY SUPPORT AND DEFEND all vaginas everywhere and provide for their seed !! ) because what the liberal male was supporting was their rights to cheap and free
irresponsible sex and to use and abuse women everywhere.

But Father and his Son will defend what they love most, which is their daughters..
the weakest of humanity will become the greatest.
women with wings, 1800 Queens, all beautiful woman of the ages.

behold he will do a new thing.. the glory of Eve will be restored in a big way ..
a woman will protect/surround a man... all she's, "the daughters of God" .. will have the power of life and the breath of God, even righteousness and healing in their wings. AND THEY ALL WILL HELP HIM .

BUT FATHER GOD'S WRATH IS WHAT FATHER HAS BEEN SAVING UP IN THOSE BOWLS!!

the wrath has been CREATED BY THE shedding of INNOCENT BLOOD THAT MEN HAVE SPILT mostly in pursuit of free vaginas I would guess that from all the rape an pillaging in history ..

and no one innocent or repentant will receive His wrath.

WE MUST ALL repent while we still can !!
a man has the right to defend what he loves... The Son Loves all his creation! and his greatest creation IS legal LOVE/and includes vaginas everywhere!!
it is about to rain holy vaginas from heaven boys! SO you now can't ouch that!!

sincerely " רִנָּה"

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Old Yesterday, 06:32 AM
 
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There is no amount of makeup or plastic ... that will make it so that any of you be able to pretend to be what is coming
to a theater near you !
Maybe you should NOT have come out of your closets dressed up like women looking like your mother.. and after all that maybe you all shouldn't have been forcing your ideas on little girls and stealing their voices in this society!
Maybe you Big bad boys should have picked on someone your own size and used your own dang bathrooms and made your own cakes!
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Old Yesterday, 07:07 AM
 
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The "12 apostles" were actually 13 or 14 or 15. For example, Paul calls himself a "late apostle." And Judas who led the way for the salvation of all Christians through human-theo-sacrificd, was also one of the 12 disciples before he was replaced by the second Matthew.

In Christianity, Judas committed suicide or was killed by the wrath of God either because he "never truly believed" or he "changed his mind selfishly" or he "changed his mind due to disillusion" so he died not "accepting Jesus as the Messiah."

In Catholicism, they did (eventually), even his mother definitively converted to Jesus' beliefs about the correct Judaism, and his acceptance (in accordance to Paul) of nonJews getting chosen to receive equal benefits as biological Jews and "correctly converted" Jews. In Protestantism, his mother can be disrespected with ignorance, because Paul and THEN Jesus are more important than her. One passage had him disown his biological mother and sisters who questioned why he was rabble rousing like the atheists do. But the assumption in Protestantism is still that since God would only choose a good Jewish girl as his cheap and clean uterus, then she eventually converted, especially since the angels talked to her about his rising and she was numbered among the believers later.
Thank You for this info.
Do you know what exactly was the belief of “correct Judaism”?

This is very interesting to me.
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Old Yesterday, 10:09 AM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ysFfgYkSVU
He comes humbly with an army of sweet but tough ladies , with their momma( bear) genes fully engaged......a army of ladies with healing and food in their wings..... "come drink from the fountain of life.. free of cost ...."

They will be picking up the pieces of what man has done to themselves.
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Old Yesterday, 10:48 AM
 
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Default Jesus, the wrath of God?

When I consider the idea that the root of the Greek word translated "wrath" has a meaning of longing for, reaching out after, desire, then it could fit with a God who is love reaching out to humanity through the Jesus narrative, sure.
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