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Old 04-21-2019, 05:42 PM
 
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John the Baptist said to the crowd who came to him, "You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath?"

Jesus was actually the wrath of God to those who do not accept His word. That is why Christianity is so divided.

Is Christianity under His wrath?

"A kingdom divided cannot stand. "
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Old 04-21-2019, 05:53 PM
 
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John the Baptist said to the crowd who came to him, "You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath?"

Jesus was actually the wrath of God to those who do not accept His word. That is why Christianity is so divided.

Is Christianity under His wrath?

"A kingdom divided cannot stand. "
god is the devil ... heard it before.

I think the word being tossed around these days with the skirts is one trick pony.
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Old 04-21-2019, 06:30 PM
 
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Oh, well, if God had wrath in Him then we could talk about something substantial.
But, so far this is fantasy talk...a waste of time...which is

exactly the trick of the ego.
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Old 04-21-2019, 06:33 PM
 
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John the Baptist said to the crowd who came to him, "You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath?"

Jesus was actually the wrath of God to those who do not accept His word. That is why Christianity is so divided.

Is Christianity under His wrath?

"A kingdom divided cannot stand. "
God poured out his wrath on Jesus. Yes, Jesus will come back to judge those that don't trust and repent, but I'd hardly call him the "wrath of God" now.

Bottom line is, no one who loves God will be sent to Hell. Those that love God will do as God commands -- believe in Jesus. God is not an unjust God who sends innocents to hell.
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Old 04-21-2019, 06:46 PM
 
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God poured out his wrath on Jesus. Yes, Jesus will come back to judge those that don't trust and repent, but I'd hardly call him the "wrath of God" now.

Bottom line is, no one who loves God will be sent to Hell. Those that love God will do as God commands -- believe in Jesus. God is not an unjust God who sends innocents to hell.
its more like you have love then there is light in you. thus you not "in hell" or "darkness".

weather its god or not is irrelevant.

but who really acres anyway.
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Old 04-21-2019, 08:42 PM
 
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God poured out his wrath on Jesus. Yes, Jesus will come back to judge those that don't trust and repent, but I'd hardly call him the "wrath of God" now.

Bottom line is, no one who loves God will be sent to Hell. Those that love God will do as God commands -- believe in Jesus. God is not an unjust God who sends innocents to hell.
If a god was just, it would send those who wish FOR and ACCEPT hell to hell. Perfect justice.

Are Jews innocent? Are fetuses? Are old fragile senile old ladies innocent? Is you God innocent, or fully culpable as the ultimate cause of everything? Is your God thus equivalent in essence to the poor and those imprisoned?

Jews love their God, and some even do as they deeply "know" he commands... so they wait for their Messiah to bring world peace and all the world nations to bow down to Israel. Then the chosen SON OF ADAM can be truly considered the Last "Anointed" ruler of the 12 tribes of Jacob/Israel by God. Given that God hates pagans and did not choose them for his purposes (bringing the cup of wrath and suffering to the enemies of the Jews), he would never have impregnated a Jewish girl with his own child who is also himself in order to help pagans believe that a fully-half-god-human Hercules-like thing was talking to their ancestors directly not through a prophet. The very story of the Jews is about how God CANNOT show a face (its actually because their false god never has existed just like the ones with faces drawn)

Muslims love their prophet Jesus, and thus do exactly what they think a true HUMAN and PROPHET Jesus would have commanded from God. Nothing pagan about worshiping a man/avatar or "another person" of God. The Quran clears up what the Christians could not even amongst each other about the commands to the Gentiles (the nonJews).

The Buddha will break down all hells, clear the hearts of the sick, help them take personal responsibility and absolve themselves, and convince all the false deluded gods (and they do describe different gods, who each think is the only one. Jew against Jew. Christian against Christian. Muslim against Muslim.) to become Enlightened and thus free from the constraints that their evidenced as fallible followers put on them.
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Old 04-21-2019, 09:40 PM
 
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God poured out his wrath on Jesus. Yes, Jesus will come back to judge those that don't trust and repent, but I'd hardly call him the "wrath of God" now.

Bottom line is, no one who loves God will be sent to Hell. Those that love God will do as God commands -- believe in Jesus. God is not an unjust God who sends innocents to hell.

God is nothing BUT unjust if you're following Christian dogma.

He left no reliable proof of his son's visit to earth. No historians mention him. Even the two Josephus passages are mired in controversy. Yet He wants us to believe in His son as our savior sight unseen--strictly on faith!

Jesus = 3 hours of relatively bad pain then he came back to life to bring us salvation.

Us = eternal (never-ending) most unimaginably excruciating torment in fire for thought crime of rejecting Jesus

There's nothing the slightest bit just about such a horribly lop-sided verdict against humans for a senseless thought crime when they haven't the slightest bit of evidence to support their acceptance of Jesus or their denial of him. Crass stupidity. And yes, that's the Christian faith--in what, I wonder.
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Old 04-21-2019, 10:04 PM
 
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So why did John say that if Jesus was not bringing or was God's wrath? After all people are still disputing His word over 2000 years since.

Why not just say it clearly?

God was angry that no one believed in the prophets. He said;

"I'm going back to my place until they have paid for their guilt and they seek my presence."

So God came as Jesus and said things only the son can know then He left.

If people do not accept the word of the son, God's prophets, it's going to be hell!!!

The time is getting ripe. Wake up.

"Seek the Lord so you will live. "

The one who enters through the gate is the shepherd of the sheep, the prophets.
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Old 04-22-2019, 12:41 AM
 
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The one who enters through the gate is the shepherd of the sheep, the prophets.
Wake up!

A shepherd is no hero, a shepherd is a desperate fleecer and a tricky butcher.

Wake up: You don't want to be a sheep, you want to confess that you are human! Wake up!

Think about it, the warning bells are ringing, time is short, find further enlightenment.

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Old 04-22-2019, 12:49 AM
 
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Yes, Jesus will come back to judge those that don't trust and repent...

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