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Old Yesterday, 03:00 PM
 
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Notwithstanding the clarifying statements that no major religions oppose immunization.....

I assume one reason for the question in the OP is the observation that approximately half of the current cases (the largest outbreak since measles was declared erradicated) have occurred in Orthodox Jewish communities in NYC.... where there are large concentrations of unvaccinated or under-vaccinated children. I would not presume to speak to their beliefs, but my understanding is that this may have little to do with religious beliefs per se... and more to do with a group vulnerability to misinformation.

https://www.vox.com/science-and-heal...unity-vaccines
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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/18/jewi...s-spreads.html

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I wouldn't see any doctor who said that vaccines went against their religion.

More and more Christian religions are saying that vaccines come from "the devil." Do you want a doctor who has those beliefs? I don't.
Oh, really? Can you document this? That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
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Old Yesterday, 03:19 PM
 
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Still for some people close to the Lord , where God can remove pathogens out of the body of the faithful ..... But then taking vaccination , believers can get them as long as they pray for grace before they get the shot , so God can intervene if need be
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I wouldn't see any doctor who said that vaccines went against their religion.

More and more Christian religions are saying that vaccines come from "the devil." Do you want a doctor who has those beliefs? I don't.
I never thought about a medical practitioner refusing to give a vaccination/immunization treatment based on religious beliefs, I was more thinking or a practitioner or the religion refusing to have themselves or their children treated based on beliefs.

I wonder how medical schools and individual state licensing divisions for practicing medicine, hospitals hiring physicians, etc. would handle someone refusing to administer treatments based on belief...?
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Old Yesterday, 07:20 PM
 
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I never thought about a medical practitioner refusing to give a vaccination/immunization treatment based on religious beliefs, I was more thinking or a practitioner or the religion refusing to have themselves or their children treated based on beliefs.

I wonder how medical schools and individual state licensing divisions for practicing medicine, hospitals hiring physicians, etc. would handle someone refusing to administer treatments based on belief...?
Probably the same way as the issue of blood transfusions in Jehovah's Witnesses (and perhaps Orthodox Jews).
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Old Yesterday, 08:19 PM
 
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Probably the same way as the issue of blood transfusions in Jehovah's Witnesses (and perhaps Orthodox Jews).
And what is the procedure if the doctor doesn't believe in blood transfusions (which is what I think you're saying)? With birth control and the like, the doctor is supposed to refer the patient to another doctor who will take care of their needs.
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Old Today, 11:46 AM
 
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I wouldn't see any doctor who said that vaccines went against their religion.

More and more Christian religions are saying that vaccines come from "the devil."
Do you want a doctor who has those beliefs? I don't.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/18/jewi...s-spreads.html



Oh, really? Can you document this? That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence
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I was curious about this statement as well. What "more and more Christian religions" are saying this exactly?
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Old Today, 12:39 PM
 
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And what is the procedure if the doctor doesn't believe in blood transfusions (which is what I think you're saying)? With birth control and the like, the doctor is supposed to refer the patient to another doctor who will take care of their needs.
First of all there are probably not many JW doctors, since JWs discourage college educations (or so a JW told me; I'm sure I'll be corrected if that is true).
Secondly, wouldn't any physician have to follow current best practices, or face lawsuits and/or being fired by whatever medical practice they are part of?
The JW prohibition of blood transfusion even extends to products including RhoGam. I cannot fathom a physician who would refuse to recommend/give RhoGam if needed.
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Old Today, 12:46 PM
 
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First of all there are probably not many JW doctors, since JWs discourage college educations (or so a JW told me; I'm sure I'll be corrected if that is true).
Secondly, wouldn't any physician have to follow current best practices, or face lawsuits and/or being fired by whatever medical practice they are part of?
The JW prohibition of blood transfusion even extends to products including RhoGam. I cannot fathom a physician who would refuse to recommend/give RhoGam if needed.
You may be right about there being few if any JW doctors. Just like there are no Amish doctors since they only go to school until 8th grade and are taught by other Amish who only went to school till 8th grade.

Physicians, usually OB/Gyns or others that see women of childbearing age for OB or gyn (family practitioners, some internal med docs, adolescent medicine docs, etc) who don't believe in BC or sometimes believe in BC but not sterilization are supposed to refer their patients who ask about these services to another doctor who can accommodate the patient. My experience with this issue has been with Catholic doctors, but it could come up with others as well.
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Old Today, 01:02 PM
 
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I think there are quite a few cases where religionists use religious freedom as an excuse for doing what they simply want to do.
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Old Today, 08:28 PM
 
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The only Christian denomination that I could think of that would officially be against vaccines is the one that was officially against secular/biological medicine: The Christian Science, as it is called, founded by Mary Baker Eddy (her last husband's last name).

But I'm sure many independent small denominations jump on the gravy train of gullibility, short-sighted criticalness rather than long-term study, and emotion.
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