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Old 05-07-2019, 02:28 PM
 
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Or as Aquinas would put it, “To love is to will the good of another”.
Or, as Jesus did put it we are to have the same self-sacrificing love for others as he has - John 13:34-35.
In other words, we are to now love neighbor ' more ' than self. More than the Golden Rule.
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Old 05-07-2019, 02:33 PM
 
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Jehovah is so full of love he slaughtered the whole planet in a fit of pique.
Still God flooded the earth to end the works of the devil , as the authority of the power of the cross of Christ gave God that power was not available at that early time , so then the greater love is to forgive God for the slaughter of wicked people of the earth
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Old 05-07-2019, 03:19 PM
 
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Still God flooded the earth to end the works of the devil , as the authority of the power of the cross of Christ gave God that power was not available at that early time , so then the greater love is to forgive God for the slaughter of wicked people of the earth
Did it work?

Were the drowned toddlers, infants, and the unborn all wicked people?

If God needs forgiveness, then he is not much of a god.
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Old 05-07-2019, 03:20 PM
 
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The definition of God-like love is defined at 1st Corinthians 13:4-6.
That is in sharp contrast with the self-centered distorted form of love the world displays as found at 2nd Timothy 3:1-5,13.
Who could say that world's way of so-called love is appropriate ________
So...yes or no? Does Jehovah's behavior line up with Jehovah's definition of love?
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Old 05-07-2019, 03:34 PM
 
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The concern is basic and excellent to approach, but you have not given a definition of "love," but a list of characteristics, all excellent and well worth consideration. I'm sure you know that the word used in your quotation is "agape" in the original language, and that is a distinct kind of love as compared with romantic, or filial or family love, all of which should share the characteristics listed. The difference is that "agape" is the kind of love God has for us, unconditional and concerned not just with what we want, but what we need to live in harmony with Him. The point is that is the qkind of love we will live in in relating to God and man, and which is the very foundation of the "New Covenant" Christ instituted. Such I would give the definition as "concern for the well-being of the object of love," and point out those wonderful characteristics.
Amen. It is the state of mind that resonates with Christ's perfect agape (Grace) that reveals our God's True Nature and motivations, NOT our barbaric and primitive ancestors' beliefs about God's nature and motivations that Petunia properly castigates.
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Old 05-07-2019, 08:45 PM
 
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Or as Aquinas would put it, “To love is to will the good of another”.
An excellent quote, in contrast to those who think the characteristics of love found in 1 Cor are a definition. They are not and they are characteristics shared by the other kinds of love given in Koine Greek.
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Old 05-07-2019, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Did it work?

Were the drowned toddlers, infants, and the unborn all wicked people?
I think it was Jeff who once told us that it was sort of a pre emptive strike by God because all these toddlers, infants, and unborn would GROW UP to be wicked people because they had wicked parents.
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Old 05-07-2019, 10:01 PM
 
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An excellent quote, in contrast to those who think the characteristics of love found in 1 Cor are a definition. They are not and they are characteristics shared by the other kinds of love given in Koine Greek.
If 1st Cor 13 does NOT define the state of mind of agape love what do they define, Nate?
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Old 05-07-2019, 10:23 PM
 
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I hope you've all caught on that Michelle is one of those one-time posters who's here strictly to deliver a message and not engage in any conversation. Just thought you all might want to know.
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Old Yesterday, 03:37 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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If 1st Cor 13 does NOT define the state of mind of agape love what do they define, Nate?
The point, Mystic, is that they are characteristic of all the kinds of love specified in Koine, and not just the "agape" specified in the citation; they do not define "agape."
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