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Old 05-09-2019, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I understand what you're saying, but Jehovah gave everyone the chance of surviving, it was up to them if they were going to survive that flood, but everyone took Noah for a joke when he tried to warn them, so they paid the price. Yes, Jehovah did regret that, but put yourself in his shoes, he was hurt... we as humans regrets many things out of anger or hurt feelings. If Jehovah God wasn't about 'Love' then he wouldn't have bless us with variety of things, including waking us up every morning.
If there had been an allowance that everybody could have gotten on the ark, then either the instructions on how big to build it would have been subtantially different ...or...there didn't need to be a flood at all.
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Old 05-09-2019, 09:29 AM
 
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I understand what you're saying, but Jehovah gave everyone the chance of surviving, it was up to them if they were going to survive that flood, but everyone took Noah for a joke when he tried to warn them, so they paid the price. Yes, Jehovah did regret that, but put yourself in his shoes, he was hurt... we as humans regrets many things out of anger or hurt feelings. If Jehovah God wasn't about 'Love' then he wouldn't have bless us with variety of things, including waking us up every morning.
How exactly did the folks in Australia, Japan, the Americas and Siberia hear from Noah? Did they have the same opportunity as those inthe Middle East of joining Noah?

I am glad that at least Jehovah felt hurt killing all those infants, fetuses, kittens, puppies, baby elephants etc. Yesterday morning it was a flicker drilling a hole into my house that woke me up. I tbought abut the reason that the flike was doing so and not once did God or the devil enter my mind..
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Old 05-09-2019, 09:36 AM
 
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No, but it was John who pointed out that "whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them." That fairly well covers the point.
The NT make lots of claims. It's not even the Holy book of the majority of believers on the planet. I have been in love with my wife for over 40 years and during those 40 plus years neither of us have lived in God so maybe John is not the expert Christians make him out to be.

If God is love then the rest of what is written in the Holy Books is meaningless.
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Old 05-09-2019, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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The NT make lots of claims. It's not even the Holy book of the majority of believers on the planet. I have been in love with my wife for over 40 years and during those 40 plus years neither of us have lived in God so maybe John is not the expert Christians make him out to be.

If God is love then the rest of what is written in the Holy Books is meaningless.
Yes, it does make claims, and for the people who do believe some pretty good guidelines. One that is fairly unique is that God is love and we should try to have that concern for everyone that is characteristic. Good basis for community however you reach it.
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Old 05-09-2019, 11:31 AM
 
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I understand what you're saying, but Jehovah gave everyone the chance of surviving, it was up to them if they were going to survive that flood, but everyone took Noah for a joke when he tried to warn them, so they paid the price. Yes, Jehovah did regret that, but put yourself in his shoes, he was hurt... we as humans regrets many things out of anger or hurt feelings. If Jehovah God wasn't about 'Love' then he wouldn't have bless us with variety of things, including waking us up every morning.
Really? So if say a 5 year old child wanted to heed the warning, s/he could have left his/her parents and climbed aboard the ark? Weren't all of the infants and small children drowned along with adults?

How long was Noah building the ark? 120 years? That's a long time for Jehovah to be "hurt" while He pre-meditates genocide.
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Old 05-09-2019, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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How exactly did the folks in Australia, Japan, the Americas and Siberia hear from Noah? Did they have the same opportunity as those inthe Middle East of joining Noah?

I am glad that at least Jehovah felt hurt killing all those infants, fetuses, kittens, puppies, baby elephants etc. Yesterday morning it was a flicker drilling a hole into my house that woke me up. I tbought abut the reason that the flike was doing so and not once did God or the devil enter my mind..
OT, but a flicker was drilling a hole in your house?

I've only ever seen them out pecking at the lawn.
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Old 05-09-2019, 05:13 PM
 
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OT, but a flicker was drilling a hole in your house?

I've only ever seen them out pecking at the lawn.
For the first 25 years flickers pecked at the kawn. This year the house. No evidence that they pecked at the house the 75 years before we moved here.

I don't think that they do that because of Satan. I shouldn't say they as I think it is only one flicker doing all the damage.
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Old 05-09-2019, 07:15 PM
 
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I understand what you're saying, but Jehovah gave everyone the chance of surviving, it was up to them if they were going to survive that flood, but everyone took Noah for a joke when he tried to warn them, so they paid the price. Yes, Jehovah did regret that, but put yourself in his shoes, he was hurt... we as humans regrets many things out of anger or hurt feelings. If Jehovah God wasn't about 'Love' then he wouldn't have bless us with variety of things, including waking us up every morning.
Do you pay the price if Muslims fail to convince you and they are right?
Do gods have fickle human emotions and insecurrities?
Does Yahweh also curse the world with dying in their sleep? Where do their souls go when their brains are knocked/passed out? And what of other curses with a variety of things? Don't the good suffer, after the evil blessed with a variety of things?

This doesn't make any sense. Seems more like the world is just natural, there was no world flood, no bottleneck of animals that fit into a boat with given dimensions of about 2 football fields cubed (if I recall correctly that detail).

1. No one else had boats?
2. How does an olive plant survive a total flood?
3. Why kill the world because they are evil humans, then say that since humans are evil, you won't kill the world with flooding anymore (but what, another way like fire?)?
4. How does fighting violence in the world with the violence of flooding prove or change anything?

There are better stories out there with more concrete logic and better morals.
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Old Yesterday, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA
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I do not have a definition, but, a comment, some thoughts on love.

Love is AMAZING.
It HAS NO PRIDE what so ever. It will go to the lowest point to get more,
to give more..It will die to get it, it will die to show it,
it will be made a fool of to receive it, it will be humiliated over and over and suffer to
no end to demonstrate Itself.

If a person were to care for only ONE thing his whole life; to be Love and Loving And to allow Love....❤️
And only that towards everything...the garden, the peeing pet, the smelly homeless,
the nasty neighbor, the mean boss, the selfish son, the demeaning mother,
the domineering father in law...they would be thought of as a fool and door mat and bad things
could be heaped on him...

But, Oh MY, would his inner life be the richest life ever lived.
Hand to God.
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Old Today, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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I understand what you're saying, but Jehovah gave everyone the chance of surviving, it was up to them if they were going to survive that flood, but everyone took Noah for a joke when he tried to warn them, so they paid the price.
...and if they had all accepted, how would everyone have fitted on the boat?


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Yes, Jehovah did regret that, but put yourself in his shoes, he was hurt... we as humans regrets many things out of anger or hurt feelings.
The huge difference of course is that humans are not omnimax.


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If Jehovah God wasn't about 'Love' then he wouldn't have bless us with variety of things, including waking us up every morning.
The thinking of a child.
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