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Old 05-11-2019, 05:32 PM
 
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"Those babies couldn't survive on their own without their parents, so that's why they had to die right along with them."...................
Since the world was full of violence (Gen. 6:11) then those babies would have grown up violent just like the parents.
We don't know the point of No return, of No repenting, of No showing of remorse, but God does.
Those ' babies ' would have grown up violent just like the parents and killed off any righteous ones on Earth.
Earth was made for humble meek people, Not wicked people - Psalm 37:9-11; Matthew 25:31-33,37,40.
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Old 05-11-2019, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Since the world was full of violence (Gen. 6:11) then those babies would have grown up violent just like the parents.
We don't know the point of No return, of No repenting, of No showing of remorse, but God does.
Those ' babies ' would have grown up violent just like the parents and killed off any righteous ones on Earth.
Earth was made for humble meek people, Not wicked people - Psalm 37:9-11; Matthew 25:31-33,37,40.
Jehovah was a monstrous creation of primitive man's imagination.

Putting lipstick on a pig doesn't pretty it up.
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Old 05-11-2019, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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I find there is a BIG difference between killing, murder and an 'Execution' for the sake of righteousness.
We can't read hearts, so we do Not know when people are at the point of No remorse, No repentance, but God does know.
If God had Not involved Himself into mankind's affairs then No one righteous would have been left on Earth.
The world of mankind was full of violence according to Genesis 6:11. God 'hates' violence - Psalm 11:5
It was the people who gave God No choice but to 'Execute' them for the sake of the righteous ones.
If left unchecked there would have been No one righteous left on Earth, and the wicked would have ended up killing and murdering themselves through their violence.
Violent wicked people even murder their own children according to Jeremiah 32:35; 2nd Chronicles 28:3.
In the 60's one teacher even told us that the generation that aborts its children will also euthanize it's parents.

The type of people today as described at 2nd Timothy 3:1-5,13 are thus blamed for the problems of the world.
The figurative humble ' sheep ' of Matthew 25:31-33,37,40 are Not to blame for these last days of badness on Earth.
I'm trying to think of a good reason god had for killing babies. It was immoral for god to kill all of Egypt's first born. It was immoral for god to kill all babies...and in fact, virtually all the world's people, during the Great Flood.

Or didn't those things happen?

What you are doing above is shifting the blame from where the power was and shifting the blame from the all powerful to lowly human being with little power.

It's despicable. It disgusts me. It is the most immoral justification for actions discussed in the bible that I have ever seen.
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Old 05-11-2019, 08:02 PM
 
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Since the world was full of violence (Gen. 6:11) then those babies would have grown up violent just like the parents.
We don't know the point of No return, of No repenting, of No showing of remorse, but God does.
Those ' babies ' would have grown up violent just like the parents and killed off any righteous ones on Earth.
Earth was made for humble meek people, Not wicked people - Psalm 37:9-11; Matthew 25:31-33,37,40.
And so the genocide solved the problem? There is no longer any violence on Earth? No longer any wickedness?
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Old 05-11-2019, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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And so the genocide solved the problem? There is no longer any violence on Earth? No longer any wickedness?
The unmistakable conclusion is that Jehovah screwed up.

Again.
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Old Yesterday, 04:16 AM
 
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The unmistakable conclusion is that Jehovah screwed up.

Again.
Yup. Looks like he should have just saved the animals
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Old Today, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA
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And so the genocide solved the problem?
There is no longer any violence on Earth? No longer any wickedness?
Does anyone really believe "God" did that...the Flood? I don't.
I know there was one, cuz Carl Jung said it was in the collective unconscious mind
all over the world, didn't he?
Cuz you'd be correct...did it stop wickedness?

This relates to the topic of love defined...would that be love? No.
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Old Today, 05:57 PM
 
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Does anyone really believe "God" did that...the Flood? I don't.
I know there was one, cuz Carl Jung said it was in the collective unconscious mind
all over the world, didn't he?
Cuz you'd be correct...did it stop wickedness?

This relates to the topic of love defined...would that be love? No.
some atheist can't separate god from religion any more than some theist can.
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Old Today, 07:33 PM
 
Location: City-Data Forum
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Since the world was full of violence (Gen. 6:11) then those babies would have grown up violent just like the parents.
We don't know the point of No return, of No repenting, of No showing of remorse, but God does.
Those ' babies ' would have grown up violent just like the parents and killed off any righteous ones on Earth.
Earth was made for humble meek people, Not wicked people - Psalm 37:9-11; Matthew 25:31-33,37,40.
You know, unless Yahweh had enough magic mojo juice to poof their parents out of existence and replace them with "pacifist" drunkard Noah+wife clones rather than killing them in some violent flood.

An "omnipotent" God that has to fight violence with violence is something else.
In fact, an "omnibenevolent" God with a "patience limit" is something else as well.

Plenty of kids have been allowed to grow up violent just like their parents and have been allowed to kill of many righteous ones on Earth. So no problem seems to really have been solved by wetting the bed.

Humble meek people are much easier to manipulate into achieving great works cheaply for their ruling class, that is for sure.

ruling class = priests, kings, empowered-weaponized groups, independent teachers, owners/managers/sponsors of dependent teachers, owners/managers/sponsors of workers, independent fame-idols, owners/m/spons of dependent fame-idols, independent political leaders, owners/m/s of dependent political leaders, etc.

The Earth exists as it is. The humble and meek are allowed to be abused by the wicked when they are gullible and naive. Humility and meekness are not in any way virtues by themselves. Otherwise, most domesticated animals had this Earth "made for them," ha!

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Old Today, 10:24 PM
 
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Does anyone really believe "God" did that...the Flood? I don't.
I know there was one, cuz Carl Jung said it was in the collective unconscious mind
all over the world, didn't he?
Cuz you'd be correct...did it stop wickedness?

This relates to the topic of love defined...would that be love? No.
You've encountered people who believe the flood actually happened right here on this thread, haven't you?
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