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Old 06-06-2019, 05:53 AM
 
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God doesn't hate.
Tell that to the Amalekites. Oh thatís right, god didnít hate them enough to order for everyone to be slaughtered including the babies.

No hate there
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Old 06-06-2019, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Divided Tribes of America
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Your ideas of justice are merely humanistic. Sin is committed against the eternal God, so sin carries an eternal punishment. Only Jesus, being the eternal Son of God, could pay the penalty for sin for those who believe in Him. The sinner in hell will forever be paying for, and yet never satisfying, their sin debt.
Yes, that’s what I was taught in the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod: infinite punishment for finite “crimes,” including the “crime” of merely doubting any of what I was taught.

It can do a lot of damage to a person, especially a child.
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Old 06-06-2019, 10:05 AM
 
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This gives you a rough size of our universe, which currently is 93 BILLION light years in diameter:
The photo of course can't do justice to such an immense space:



(public domain)

But as large as this space is it couldn't possibly contain even a fraction of God's hatred for people who are not believers in Jesus as the divine son of God. Oh, you can believe in Jesus as a normal prophet sage who lived 2000 years ago and was crucified as Muslims and Hindus do. But unless you believe he was more than just a man--he was divine and he died for your sins, you have earned God's wrath and therefore His hatred for you. And this hatred is eternal. Which makes His hatred for you so voluminous that the entire known universe could not hold it because the universe is finite. It ends at some point that we cannot see. But God's hatred for non-believers in a divine Jesus is INFINITE. Which is why He must punish you with the worst pain imaginable for eternity for a simple thought crime that you cannot help yourself thinking because you have read the evidence against Jesus being divine. This is all according to contemporary Christian theology, and this is what children are taught in Jesus camps. In the Christian hierarchy's eyes and therefore God's eyes, you should never have laid eyes on that blasphemous literature that caused you to doubt. Better to have gouged your eyes and punctured your eardrums to not be able to read or hear anything that would cause you to disbelieve, than to have read something and doubted.

"And if your eyes cause you to stumble, pluck [them] out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God blind than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell" Mark 9:47
Hey, look! More Christian bashing...how about that?
Do you have anything to offer that isn't based in bias and hate for those that believe differently than you?
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Old 06-06-2019, 10:57 AM
 
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Hey look!

I’m going to attack the messenger instead of the message
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Old 06-06-2019, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA
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Hey look!
I’m going to attack the messenger instead of the message
Do you know The Anointed just told me I should read about the Amalekite in 1 Samuel something? So sorry, I can't direct you to where I read it..in the Christianity section, tho...funny, huh? Hope you're well..long time no see.
He is new here, I wonder if he has seen your name...he'll be blown away!!!


I found it for you, Belief in the Atonement +Reincarnation , post 43. Chapter 15!!!!!! What were the chances?!!
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Old 06-06-2019, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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So what is it you find objectionable about my OP, mordant? Or are you one of these who believes that God sheds crocodile tears as He condemns people to hell, "Ohhhhhh....how I wish I could save you, but my sense of justice will not let my love for you keep me from tossing you into hell. If oooonly I could! Bwaa! "
Nothing objectionable at all. I just wasn't sure if I was reading parody or serious argument.
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Old 06-06-2019, 02:38 PM
 
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Nothing objectionable at all. I just wasn't sure if I was reading parody or serious argument.
yeah, I feel same way when the anti-god sect of atheism starts preaching about obscuring science science so that theist can't use it and make atheism harder to sell.

I think to myself, do these types of atheist actually believe that nonsense? or are they joking?
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Old 06-06-2019, 03:41 PM
 
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God doesn't hate.
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Tell the first born of Egypt that.
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"Just as it is written: "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated." Romans 9:13

You sure God doesn't hate, Girl?
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Tell that to the Amalekites. Oh thatís right, god didnít hate them enough to order for everyone to be slaughtered including the babies.
No hate there
Those who have an inner sense of love and closeness to God recognize the corruptions and distortions in the Bible interpreted by men as corruptions and NOT from God or Jesus.
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Old 06-06-2019, 04:15 PM
 
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Those who have an inner sense of love and closeness to God recognize the corruptions and distortions in the Bible interpreted by men as corruptions and NOT from God or Jesus.
and really mystic, I don't believe in god or Jesus died and rose as some teach and I still agree with you. people are are butchering all common sense associated wit the bible and Jesus.

of course, I am just a non literal atheist. I only deal with whats in front of me and that's people.

people teach in voodoo magic and other people follow them ... thats what I see.
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Old 06-06-2019, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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yeah, I feel same way when the anti-god sect of atheism starts preaching about obscuring science science so that theist can't use it and make atheism harder to sell.

I think to myself, do these types of atheist actually believe that nonsense? or are they joking?
Is that opposed to the pro-god atheists?
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