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Old 06-06-2019, 04:54 PM
 
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Is that opposed to the pro-god atheists?

nice one liner ... it made me laugh ... thank you.

but it is the same personality type that is anti-no-god.
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Old 06-06-2019, 05:24 PM
 
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Hey, look! More Christian bashing...how about that?
Do you have anything to offer that isn't based in bias and hate for those that believe differently than you?

Wouldn't you agree that if a person is going to reject Jesus then better for them that they should never have heard of Jesus in the first place? According to Christian theology, once a person hears the name "Jesus" and learns of his "salvation" they are automatically on the hook for either accepting him or facing an eternity roasting and burning in hell for rejecting him.


This is the reason Andrea Yates and thousands of other mothers killed their children--because they're terrified their children will reject Jesus and go to hell. These are facts. Read about it:


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In their letters, the Woronieckis would often “diagnose” Andrea as being evil. “God knows how wicked you are,” he wrote. “You must accept the reality that your life is under the curse of sin and death . . .” Andrea was subjected to a near-constant stream of hateful messages like this from a man she believed spoke for God.

https://medium.com/@delanirbartlette...s-b9e2f1f598ae
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Old 06-06-2019, 05:35 PM
 
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Those who have an inner sense of love and closeness to God recognize the corruptions and distortions in the Bible interpreted by men as corruptions and NOT from God or Jesus.
Why doesn't jesus/god fix it?
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Old 06-06-2019, 06:38 PM
 
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Wouldn't you agree that if a person is going to reject Jesus then better for them that they should never have heard of Jesus in the first place? According to Christian theology, once a person hears the name "Jesus" and learns of his "salvation" they are automatically on the hook for either accepting him or facing an eternity roasting and burning in hell for rejecting him.


This is the reason Andrea Yates and thousands of other mothers killed their children--because they're terrified their children will reject Jesus and go to hell. These are facts. Read about it:





https://medium.com/@delanirbartlette...s-b9e2f1f598ae
yeah but they are wrong? the people teaching that kind of thing are wrong. learning about Jesus and choosing not Jesus is just fine.

people are saying Jesus is doing something Jesus is not doing. so who's at fault here?
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Old 06-06-2019, 07:47 PM
 
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Why doesn't jesus/god fix it?
Because the ONLY influence God has here on earth where WE have Dominion is through us in our consciousness. We are slowly evolving our spiritual understanding with each new generation. Unfortunately, too many of the religions advocate keeping the original ignorant interpretations of God's inspirations as a sign of their Faith in God. Catch-22. It is slow going, like extracting impacted wisdom teeth without Novocaine or pliers.
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Old 06-06-2019, 08:00 PM
 
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yeah but they are wrong? the people teaching that kind of thing are wrong. learning about Jesus and choosing not Jesus is just fine.

people are saying Jesus is doing something Jesus is not doing. so who's at fault here?

The Christian religion/dogma bears the full blame for all the harm that resulted from this damnable teaching.


The Christian religion has operated on fear for its entire 2000 year history. Eternal damnation in fire was picked up by Tertullian, Augustine and several others from the pagan Greeks in roughly 200 CE and incorporated into the Christian dogma right away. Why? Because fear works wonderfully. There's no better way to coerce someone into a religion than by making them fearful of some extraordinary harm that will befall them if they don't believe what you are telling them to believe. Christianity could not have grown as it did without the doctrine of hell. Even today, talk to a fundamentalist. Tell them you reject Jesus. Immediately, "I wouldn't reject Jesus. Your soul's eternal destiny depends on you accepting him or not. Reject Jesus and you will spend eternity in the fires of hell suffering pain and torment beyond imagination!"
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Old 06-07-2019, 12:52 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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You do realize that christianity is a foreign/exotic religion?
LMAO!

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I would suggest if you read Evangelical and Fundie sites, this extends way beyond Non-Christians, and also includes huge "Religions" as they call them, like Catholics and Orthodox.
That, along with the cults, are all doomed.
Christianity is a blood cult.

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Ohhh boy! We've got a live one here.
he's allowed to vote too!

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God doesn't hate.
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Is that so? Try Romans 9:13.
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Old 06-07-2019, 03:34 AM
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Location: Germany
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Because the ONLY influence God has here on earth where WE have Dominion is through us in our consciousness. We are slowly evolving our spiritual understanding with each new generation. Unfortunately, too many of the religions advocate keeping the original ignorant interpretations of God's inspirations as a sign of their Faith in God. Catch-22. It is slow going, like extracting impacted wisdom teeth without Novocaine or pliers.
So this god is behaving as if he does not exist?
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Old 06-07-2019, 03:40 AM
 
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So this god is behaving as if he does not exist?
Nailed it. It's been said before (not too often) - 'If God didn't exist, how would the world be different?'

The only answer that people could make is that Christianity wouldn't exist. So Hinduism means that Ganesh exists?

Or that there would be no force for Good in the world? We can forget (by now) all the arguments from Morality, the 'Moral compass', the religious instinct or the proffered 'evidence' of 'Miracles', 'Answered prayer' and a 'difference in the lives of believers'. None of that adds up to a row of beans.

Mystic - and you may take my word for this, as i am something of an Authority on Mystic - has Nothing but his personal experiences, which I do not deny happened, but which i think has been misinterpreted by him as messages from God, rather than something out of his own head. And i think that is so because he spends a lot of time presenting false facts which he then has to find excuses for - like the 'science' that isn't science, but is an 'analogy' of some unknown 'dark matter' science unknown to anyone but him, or the 'learning -curve' theory of religious evolution which seems to be out of order - he had to excuse this by claiming that educational sessions do not have to give lessons in a logical progression. I said yes they did, and I never heard any more about it, other than a repetition of the 'Spiritual fossil record' claim.

I may say also that the argument that Buddhism preceded Christianity by 500 years, but is actually more sophisticated, and Islam came later by half a century and is less sophisticated seems to have elicited only this claim that Jesus was the promised Maitri -Buddha'. Which doesn't really make Christianity any more sophisticated than Buddhism.

But then Mystic - and I'll see his creditable points where there are any - has pretty much discarded everything about Christianity other than 'Agape Love' which arguably does supersede practical Buddhism, and he pins this on the act of crucifixion. Believe it or not, as you like.

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Old 06-07-2019, 03:53 AM
 
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So this god is behaving as if he does not exist?
in exactly the same manor that you behave you do not exist to a cell in your body.

what you would do, if you have clue about science, is say that that god behaves in a manor that shows they have the traits wrong.
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