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Old 06-15-2019, 07:02 AM
 
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Christians,

Does anyone remember having a born-again experience when they were a child or teenager?

I think a lot of this has to do with your early experience. I want to share something I remember happening in church when I was a kid. We were in Sunday school watching a short film on video. I can't remember what it was about, but in one scene it showed a boy sneaking into a room and stealing something. We were all pretty engrossed in the scene because the kid was trying to hurry and not get caught. But in the chair in front of me I heard a boy say kind of softly, "He better hurry up." But I remember thinking the exact opposite. I was thinking, some good adult better hurry up and get to the room so they can catch him in the act.

When I heard the other kid say that out loud I just sort of looked over at him in disbelief. I was just staring at him.

But then it seemed like he wasn't the only kid watching the film from that perspective. And since this was obviously produced by an evangelical Christian group, the message was trying to show that we are all sinners in need of salvation.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this? When I was that age I didn't feel the need for salvation. But I think maybe most kids did. Maybe I was not "normal" in that perspective. And I feel now like I wasn't any better than they were. I was the same, but just developed in different stages. But the fact that I was more interested in following God's laws, even before I became saved, made me different than most kids? Now when I hear a preacher say something like, "An evil person doesn't see the sin in himself. He thinks he doesn't need God". Well, that is not exactly how I felt as a child. I certainly believed in God and I wanted to follow Jesus. But I never felt like a "sinner" in need of salvation at that age. I was more humble, personally, and I never would have thought about stealing or other things like that.

Do you have any thoughts on this? Thank you.

EDIT: Sorry, I should not have put the word "saved" in quotes because I think it is legitimate. Also, I intended to open this in the Christianity subforum. (Sorry to moderators.)

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Old 06-15-2019, 09:41 AM
 
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I think, most of this is your NOW imagination. Even THEN it was mostly imagination and judging based on YOUR prejudice.
I think, you should spend less time pondering over bygones and imaginary fantasies your mind creates and live in NOW.
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Old 06-15-2019, 09:43 AM
 
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Remeber one fact. Everything that is different from REALITY or NOW is product of mind and, as such, is not real. Only fool will dwell in what is not real.
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Old 06-15-2019, 02:17 PM
 
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Christians,

Does anyone remember having a born-again experience when they were a child or teenager?

I think a lot of this has to do with your early experience. I want to share something I remember happening in church when I was a kid. We were in Sunday school watching a short film on video. I can't remember what it was about, but in one scene it showed a boy sneaking into a room and stealing something. We were all pretty engrossed in the scene because the kid was trying to hurry and not get caught. But in the chair in front of me I heard a boy say kind of softly, "He better hurry up." But I remember thinking the exact opposite. I was thinking, some good adult better hurry up and get to the room so they can catch him in the act.

When I heard the other kid say that out loud I just sort of looked over at him in disbelief. I was just staring at him.

But then it seemed like he wasn't the only kid watching the film from that perspective. And since this was obviously produced by an evangelical Christian group, the message was trying to show that we are all sinners in need of salvation.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this? When I was that age I didn't feel the need for salvation. But I think maybe most kids did. Maybe I was not "normal" in that perspective. And I feel now like I wasn't any better than they were. I was the same, but just developed in different stages. But the fact that I was more interested in following God's laws, even before I became saved, made me different than most kids? Now when I hear a preacher say something like, "An evil person doesn't see the sin in himself. He thinks he doesn't need God". Well, that is not exactly how I felt as a child. I certainly believed in God and I wanted to follow Jesus. But I never felt like a "sinner" in need of salvation at that age. I was more humble, personally, and I never would have thought about stealing or other things like that.

Do you have any thoughts on this? Thank you.

EDIT: Sorry, I should not have put the word "saved" in quotes because I think it is legitimate. Also, I intended to open this in the Christianity subforum. (Sorry to moderators.)
My thoughts? Disgusting propaganda, trying to tell us we are all sick and the only cure is Jesusgod snake -oil.
Not so much that Religion can motivate us to be moral (though I wish they'd see the merits of doing that for itself) but using the ploy not to sell legitimate medicine, but the religious drug in fact.
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Old 06-15-2019, 05:28 PM
 
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Since 'the one who endures to the end is saved' according to Jesus at Matthew 24:13 then there is No once saved always saved.
Thus, once having a knowledge of God and Jesus one needs to endure to either the end of one's life, or the end of this world of badness.
Endure to the coming time of Matthew 25:31-33,37,40 in order to be ' saved / delivered/ rescued ' through the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14,9 to become part of the great crowd of people who will live to see calendar Day One of Jesus' coming 1,000-year governmental rule over Earth when it begins.
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Old 06-15-2019, 06:42 PM
 
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Since 'the one who endures to the end is saved' according to Jesus at Matthew 24:13 then there is No once saved always saved.
Thus, once having a knowledge of God and Jesus one needs to endure to either the end of one's life, or the end of this world of badness.
Endure to the coming time of Matthew 25:31-33,37,40 in order to be ' saved / delivered/ rescued ' through the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14,9 to become part of the great crowd of people who will live to see calendar Day One of Jesus' coming 1,000-year governmental rule over Earth when it begins.
That's one for you, Ozzy . I wouldn't touch it with a tilting -lance.
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Old 06-15-2019, 07:01 PM
 
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No, I'm not going to argue with anyone on any of these topics. I'm just more interested in hearing from anyone who had a spiritual conversion/repentance at a young age.
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Old 06-15-2019, 07:07 PM
 
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Your analogy doesn't make sense to me.

You thought some "good adult" should "save" the kid from himself, so your argument about "saving" and your humility is not the next logical conclusion.

You've mixed up several thoughts, idea, and concepts.
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Old 06-15-2019, 07:49 PM
 
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Your analogy doesn't make sense to me.

You thought some "good adult" should "save" the kid from himself, so your argument about "saving" and your humility is not the next logical conclusion.

You've mixed up several thoughts, idea, and concepts.
I was thinking more about punitive justice for the act of stealing.

My point is this: Growing up in the evangelical church it seemed like many of my peers had "born again" experiences sometime during childhood or teen years. I just wanted to hear the perspective from anyone like that.
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Old 06-15-2019, 10:48 PM
 
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No, I'm not going to argue with anyone on any of these topics. I'm just more interested in hearing from anyone who had a spiritual conversion/repentance at a young age.
Ok
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