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It is sad that you have chosen influences that choose resistance to God .
If there were no god why the fight ?
Religion attempts to better man and make him a aware of his accountability . In the effort to see that he behaves with out supervision of others.
Are not morality and honesty and truth a good thing ?
Isn't believing in some one that helps one be more human and merciful to his fellow a good thing ?
Muslims are the ones killing Christians ( and any one not Muslim) yet you fight is against Christians . are you Muslim ?
most people understand the diference between a fight to stop oppression and describing the system we are in.
anti-god/religious and my-god-only types don't get it. They need the universe to be their statement of belief about god. weather its god or anti-god doesn't really matter. they would be cute if they weren't so dangerous.
Ummmmm. I suppose there is no gentle way of breaking this to you but....
1 Kings 22:19–23
19 And Micaiah said, “Therefore hear the word of the Lord: I saw the Lord sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing beside him on his right hand and on his left; 20 and the Lord said, ‘Who will entice Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead?’ And one said one thing, and another said another. 21 Then a spirit came forward and stood before the Lord, saying, ‘I will entice him.’ 22 And the Lord said to him, ‘By what means?’ And he said, ‘I will go out, and will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.’ And he said, ‘You are to entice him, and you shall succeed; go out and do so.’ 23 Now therefore behold, the Lord has put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these your prophets; the Lord has declared disaster for you.”
It appears that your god has no problems with liars
If you were a Christian that knew the scriptures, you would have known that your god has no problem with liars and even encourages them,
And not only the OT. Paul makes it clear that he does and says whatever misrepresentation is necessary to persuade, cajole and bamboozle his targets. He even rejoices in his ability to trap his marks.
And we see the same in the NT (though it's harder to spot) not only with Jesus' crafty evasiveness, but downright deception. The David and the shewbread argument is absurd as an attempted proof that keeping the sabbath isn't important (a point the Gospels argue that you with NEVER hear preached from the Pulpit) because, even if the argument that David bullied a priest into making his divine buns available to David and his followers was valid (Real Pharisees would never have let this one go), David, the repeated sinner, is supposed to be a role model for breaking the Commandments?
lamo ... deceptive ... i can't stop laughing. I don't believe in him and I know "deceptive" is just pure nonsense.
Jesus in the gospel gets the story of David wrong, which means the son of God and the creator of the universe (in the story) either did not know what he was talking about or he was being deceptive*.
You could actually learn what the arguments are instead of your usual irrelevant but inevitable 'sects of atheism' attacks.
* Probably a literary device from the author of Mark.
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Jesus in the gospel gets the story of David wrong, which means the son of God and the creator of the universe (in the story) either did not know what he was talking about or he was being deceptive*.
You could actually learn what the arguments are instead of your usual irrelevant but inevitable 'sects of atheism' attacks.
lamo ... whatever you say harry.
and, lets compare them. keep in mind I make choices on him being a god. I don't believe in god.
so lets compare them side by side and think about what one is more rational.
"jesus actually did pretty good with the amount of information he didn't have."
And not only the OT. Paul makes it clear that he does and says whatever misrepresentation is necessary to persuade, cajole and bamboozle his targets. He even rejoices in his ability to trap his marks.
And we see the same in the NT (though it's harder to spot) not only with Jesus' crafty evasiveness, but downright deception. The David and the shewbread argument is absurd as an attempted proof that keeping the sabbath isn't important (a point the Gospels argue that you with NEVER hear preached from the Pulpit) because, even if the argument that David bullied a priest into making his divine buns available to David and his followers was valid (Real Pharisees would never have let this one go), David, the repeated sinner, is supposed to be a role model for breaking the Commandments?
Lies, lies and more lies.
...and then we have JC telling his mates to sod-off to the party because he wasn't going himself. Then, after they go, he also goes!
Jesus in the gospel gets the story of David wrong, which means the son of God and the creator of the universe (in the story) either did not know what he was talking about or he was being deceptive*.
You could actually learn what the arguments are instead of your usual irrelevant but inevitable 'sects of atheism' attacks.
* Probably a literary device from the author of Mark.
I'm beginning to think that ..ah heck. Why even bother refuting this dolt?
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Originally Posted by Rafius
...and then we have JC telling his mates to sod-off to the party because he wasn't going himself. Then, after they go, he also goes!
so lets compare them side by side and think about what one is more rational.
Jesus the Jew quoting the Greek Septuagint, which I would point out heavily conflicts with the Masoretic text.
How rational is that?
That would be like you quoting the Soviet Constitution to an American and then trying to claim the Soviet Constitution is the same as the US Constitution.
Jesus the Jew quoting the Greek Septuagint, which I would point out heavily conflicts with the Masoretic text.
How rational is that?
That would be like you quoting the Soviet Constitution to an American and then trying to claim the Soviet Constitution is the same as the US Constitution.
ok, what are we comparing?
Jesus quoted what? and what is the other claim?
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