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Old 06-24-2019, 12:48 PM
 
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Well, OP, you likely want to say - what FAMILY was one born in. Sure, there is environment factor but, family inclines one from the very first stages of consciousness. One may live dead in the center of Islam and grow as a Christian in Christian family.
Though my son became a believer in his late 20s coming out of a purely non orthodox believers family. As in - I am more of spiritualist, esoterist, and my wife goes to church once in severla years blue moon. It simply hit him.
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Old 06-24-2019, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Divided Tribes of America
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It seems that religion is totally dependant on where one was born, and grew up. Based on this observation I find it hard to believe that I'm somehow "special" and born into the "right" religion. It seems almost arrogant, and unfair to people who haven't been exposed to religion to be in the wrong.
Oh ye of little faith.

Of course you were born into the One True Religion. None of the people in those other religions matter. They are Unbelievers and deserve to be punished...in this life and for eternity.

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Old 06-25-2019, 02:14 PM
 
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I consider it one of the great blessings of my life that my parents made no effort whatsoever to indoctrinate me into any religion. I have no idea what they believed, and they certainly didn't care if I became an atheist, a Buddhist monk, a Christian televangelist or a Scientologist. I went through my Buddhist phase before they died, and they just chuckled.

Certainly it is very difficult to break away from the predominant religion in one's culture. If one is indoctrinated from an early age, it can be almost impossible. For most people, religion is cultural. They don't really care if it's true. They have no incentive to break away. This was Kierkegaard's point about the Denmark of his day, where Lutheranism was the official state religion. Is it even possible, he asked, to become a Christian in a "Christian" land, where one's "Christianity" is a birthright and taken for granted?

For those who take religion seriously, the issue is Truth. The overarching question of life is, "Which religion, if any, is True?" For those who recognize this - and they cut across all cultures and religions - their religion is most definitely not determined by where they were born. As a Christian, I believe that God works in all cultures and can and does call those with ears to hear. Conversely, many cultural "Christians" will be those to whom Jesus says "I never knew you."
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Old 06-25-2019, 02:19 PM
 
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Through the religion of Jesus Christ make a promise that God will help believers get their family members saved to Christ as to make a claim all family member for God , and God will make a plan for each person in the family to be saved ......... Then Jesus also made a promise to reject religions that people were born into so they can convert to Christianity , as Jesus said reject your brother or sister or mother who is not of Christ and follow Jesus from Luke 14:26.......
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Old 06-25-2019, 02:44 PM
 
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Through the religion of Jesus Christ make a promise that God will help believers get their family members saved to Christ as to make a claim all family member for God , and God will make a plan for each person in the family to be saved ......... Then Jesus also made a promise to reject religions that people were born into so they can convert to Christianity , as Jesus said reject your brother or sister or mother who is not of Christ and follow Jesus from Luke 14:26.......
That paragraph makes so many circles that I am falling off my chair from being dizzy
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Old 06-25-2019, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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It seems that religion is totally dependant on where one was born, and grew up. Based on this observation I find it hard to believe that I'm somehow "special" and born into the "right" religion. It seems almost arrogant, and unfair to people who haven't been exposed to religion to be in the wrong.
As someone who has changed his religion, married a woman who has changed her religion, and know hundreds of other people who have also changed their religions, I'd say that your premise is flawed.

While the dominate religion in area does have a large influence on which religion a person born in that area follows, it isn't the only one.

Also, why would you assume that there is somehow a "right" religion?
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Old 06-25-2019, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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For those who take religion seriously, the issue is Truth. The overarching question of life is, "Which religion, if any, is True?" For those who recognize this - and they cut across all cultures and religions - their religion is most definitely not determined by where they were born. As a Christian, I believe that God works in all cultures and can and does call those with ears to hear. Conversely, many cultural "Christians" will be those to whom Jesus says "I never knew you."
Ah yes -- the you're not really in the club form of christianity.
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Old 06-25-2019, 04:55 PM
 
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It seems that religion is totally dependant on where one was born, and grew up. Based on this observation I find it hard to believe that I'm somehow "special" and born into the "right" religion. It seems almost arrogant, and unfair to people who haven't been exposed to religion to be in the wrong.
No. It really isn't. I was born into a Catholic family but am now Baptist. I have other friends that were born into other denominations but have converted.

I know Christians that were born in India, a very Hindu and Islamic country, but are now Christian.
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Old 06-25-2019, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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No. It really isn't. I was born into a Catholic family but am now Baptist. I have other friends that were born into other denominations but have converted.

I know Christians that were born in India, a very Hindu and Islamic country, but are now Christian.
First of all, I would not consider people who converted WITHIN christianity as what we're talking about here. Catholics and Baptists are all christians. Those are different sects within christianity.

Nobody is denying that there are a few people -- like me -- who change religions or become atheistic. But they/we are the distinct overwhelming minority.
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Old 06-25-2019, 06:44 PM
 
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I consider it one of the great blessings of my life that my parents made no effort whatsoever to indoctrinate me into any religion. I have no idea what they believed, and they certainly didn't care if I became an atheist, a Buddhist monk, a Christian televangelist or a Scientologist. I went through my Buddhist phase before they died, and they just chuckled.

Certainly it is very difficult to break away from the predominant religion in one's culture. If one is indoctrinated from an early age, it can be almost impossible. For most people, religion is cultural. They don't really care if it's true. They have no incentive to break away. This was Kierkegaard's point about the Denmark of his day, where Lutheranism was the official state religion. Is it even possible, he asked, to become a Christian in a "Christian" land, where one's "Christianity" is a birthright and taken for granted?

For those who take religion seriously, the issue is Truth. The overarching question of life is, "Which religion, if any, is True?" For those who recognize this - and they cut across all cultures and religions - their religion is most definitely not determined by where they were born. As a Christian, I believe that God works in all cultures and can and does call those with ears to hear. Conversely, many cultural "Christians" will be those to whom Jesus says "I never knew you."
I see your first line as the key in many people's lives.

My parents were theist. But they did their job first. raise a person first and a religious "soldier" second.

I feel many ex-Christians can't blame the ones they love so they strike anywhere else. they don't understand that its possible their parents did the best they could and were just wrong. Its ok to think your parents are wrong. Its even ok to think some of things they did were bad and still love them.

some shallow thinkers can't understand, often deserves got nothing to do with it.
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