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Old 08-08-2019, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Dallas suburbs
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Who else in creation can offer eternal life in paradise in his kingdom? Those that want that get with the program. God didn't want this system for us. Mortals and a fallen angel caused it. God created mortals to know only good. Rebelling caused this system. Issues were raised against God in the events of Eden.
Satan says we can know both sides ourselves( good and bad) meaning then we can choose for ourselves the best path to lasting happiness. God wants us to know only good and choose with our free will to listen to his advice to find the path to lasting happiness. Its a guarantee Gods way is best. This system is sick( 2Timothy 3)
You think you can understand the reality of the whole picture as God can? He created creation. You cannot even create a single blade of grass. Our thoughts are really insignificant, yet that powerful being listens to us as his children if we listen to him. He really is Good. He hates sin, because sin= worship to satan.
sin means missing the mark of perfection
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Old 08-08-2019, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Dallas suburbs
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So while you sit in the judgement seat--You missed all the truths that have come through them. When did God make you judge? You don't even know what Jesus taught, yet think you know truth, how sad for you.
What is an example of anything the watchtower has "prophesied" that has come true? I will wait for a response.

All their proper food at the proper time, and the light gets brighter at the end of the tunnel is just a bunch of BS to keep you holding on waiting for the good stuff. Like watching a reality tv show, where the previews for what is to happen after the commercial break keep you hanging on, then nothing happens after the commercial break.
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Old 08-11-2019, 11:30 PM
 
Location: California USA
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What is an example of anything the watchtower has "prophesied" that has come true? I will wait for a response.

All their proper food at the proper time, and the light gets brighter at the end of the tunnel is just a bunch of BS to keep you holding on waiting for the good stuff. Like watching a reality tv show, where the previews for what is to happen after the commercial break keep you hanging on, then nothing happens after the commercial break.
Y'all trippin'
Prophecy = God showed me in a dream, riddle, a sign , via angels

Prediction= I would not doubt the way things are going the world will end in xyz.

WT has predicted but has learned it's lesson we, JWs, just stick with what Jesus and the apostles were saying

God's Kingdom is just around the corner and when will it happen?

Only the Father knows not even Jesus knows.
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Old 08-12-2019, 04:54 AM
 
Location: minnesota
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Y'all trippin'
Prophecy = God showed me in a dream, riddle, a sign , via angels

Prediction= I would not doubt the way things are going the world will end in xyz.

WT has predicted but has learned it's lesson we, JWs, just stick with what Jesus and the apostles were saying

God's Kingdom is just around the corner and when will it happen?

Only the Father knows not even Jesus knows.
That prediction as you call it was referred to as Jehovah's promise. The WT claims to be Jehovah's sole channel to the great crowd.

Reference Deut 18:22.
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Old 08-13-2019, 05:22 AM
 
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Y'all trippin'
Prophecy = God showed me in a dream, riddle, a sign , via angels

Prediction= I would not doubt the way things are going the world will end in xyz.

WT has predicted but has learned it's lesson we, JWs, just stick with what Jesus and the apostles were saying

God's Kingdom is just around the corner and when will it happen?

Only the Father knows not even Jesus knows.
I truly could not tell the difference between that as an attempt to preach and a sarcastic mockery. In any case, if i was a Bible believer, I'd look at the string of failed predictions and say 'Jesus spoke of false prophets'. Luke 17 23 And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them.

Even a stopped clock gets it right, once a day.

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Old Yesterday, 12:24 AM
 
Location: NSW
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I truly could not tell the difference between that as an attempt to preach and a sarcastic mockery. In any case, if i was a Bible believer, I'd look at the string of failed predictions and say 'Jesus spoke of false prophets'. Luke 17 23 And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them.

Even a stopped clock gets it right, once a day.
Please do not use that expression.
False prophets and false teachers is one of the most popular quotes with hardline and Evangelical groups, with the Pope being their most popular target.
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Old Yesterday, 02:46 AM
 
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I thought under the circumstances it was perfectly appropriate to use when a particular religious group make predictions that don't pan out. The Gospel 'False prophets' absolutely applies and they should have thought of it themselves. But the, as with other Biblequotes, they seem able to ignore them. No, I don't see any reason why I shouldn't use the term when appropriate.
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Old Yesterday, 12:55 PM
 
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What is an example of anything the watchtower has "prophesied" that has come true? I will wait for a response.

All their proper food at the proper time, and the light gets brighter at the end of the tunnel is just a bunch of BS to keep you holding on waiting for the good stuff. Like watching a reality tv show, where the previews for what is to happen after the commercial break keep you hanging on, then nothing happens after the commercial break.


You say its BS because you don't know bible facts--Matthew24:45--AT THE PROPER TIME = When God wills a truth known, it will be known, and not before, so the ones walking in light must wait for those truths as well.. ut they did come out at the proper time here in these last days to make this a bible truth-Daniel 12:4.
They can clearly see that Michael is the one who came down here, not YHVH.
The only ones on earth who could see this occurred-1914( revelation 6)
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Old Yesterday, 12:59 PM
 
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Quite simple - they were written to reflect the beliefs of the people who wrote them.

You can perhaps explain to us why God have the hebrews a lot of pettifogging laws about wool, shellfish and sticks but couldn't be bothered to tell them to set an example by no enslaving people.

You can perhaps explain to us why Jesus himself slaps down Matthew for saying the Death of jesus can't be allowed to happen (because he knows it has to be) but then those who are part of god's plan to make it happen are the bad guys, and jesus even asks whether there isn' a plan B.

Perhaps you can explain why a divine spirit that in put into Jesus at conception and allows him to ascend to resurrect and ascend, had to descend on Jesus when he's over 20 and departs him on the cross - job Done?

Those are more serious questions than the apparently pointless dickering about John's theology.



Ah that's why it's a win-win situation for Christianity. It's a financial scheme that only pays up in the next world.

Its your false reasoning on things that keeps you in darkness.
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Old Yesterday, 01:25 PM
 
Location: The Eastern Shore
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Its your false reasoning on things that keeps you in darkness.
It is your LACK of reasoning that keeps you in the darkness.
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