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Old 07-05-2019, 01:49 PM
Status: "Summertime, and the living's easy" (set 19 days ago)
 
Location: The Eastern Shore
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That's funny. I write rock and roll music. Yes some of rock music is bad, no doubt. So I would say there are other reasons as well that you got disfellowshipped. Lets hear the whole story.
Yes, because you know more about Willamette's experience than they do, huh? So, are you calling Willamette a liar, then?
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Old 07-05-2019, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Yes, because you know more about Willamette's experience than they do, huh? So, are you calling Willamette a liar, then?
Asking for the rest of the story is not the same as calling someone a liar.
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Old 07-05-2019, 02:01 PM
Status: "Summertime, and the living's easy" (set 19 days ago)
 
Location: The Eastern Shore
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Asking for the rest of the story is not the same as calling someone a liar.
They clearly said that they don't believe that is why they were disfellowshipped, and wants to hear the whole story. Had kjw said, "Was there anything else other than that?", then they would have been asking for the rest of the story. When Willamette says, "This is what happened,", and kjw says, "Nah, there must have been other reasons. What's the real story?", then he is clearly saying that Willamette is not being honest.

So what would you call it, exactly?
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Old 07-05-2019, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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They clearly said that they don't believe that is why they were disfellowshipped, and wants to hear the whole story. Had kjw said, "Was there anything else other than that?", then they would have been asking for the rest of the story. When Willamette says, "This is what happened,", and kjw says, "Nah, there must have been other reasons. What's the real story?", then he is clearly saying that Willamette is not being honest.

So what would you call it, exactly?
You are entitled to your view.
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Old 07-05-2019, 02:43 PM
 
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I educated myself by talking with many dead-eyed, zombie-fied JWs over the past 50 years.

Not to mention reading kjw's hundreds of posts of blathering nonsense.

JWs are a cruel, nasty sub-sect of Christianity. Only Westboro is worse, in my experience. Anyone who would shun their children for the stupid reasons JWs do, is evidence enough that the whole religion is crap.


In the OT God commanded them to be stoned to death. Why would you choose that for one of your family members over shunning? See you do not think clearly. They could still live to repent if only shunned and not killed. Gods will is what occurs over mortal will. It hurts the shunners just as much as it hurts the shunnee, brought on by the shunnee, yet they are always pointing the finger elsewhere.
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Old 07-05-2019, 02:50 PM
 
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Yes, because you know more about Willamette's experience than they do, huh? So, are you calling Willamette a liar, then?

I didn't call her a liar, I was there when they said certain songs shouldnt be listened to. Real JW,s do this- Luke 10:16--speaking of Jesus' appointed teachers. It always seemed strange why a domestic thinks they know Gods truth before Jesus' appointed teachers do( Matthew 24:45)-- Everyone has this-Jeremiah 17:9--It is very easy to reason falsely within. In the firstplace--one must disown themselves to followJesus( Matthew 16:24) Then they would accomplish Luke 10:16)

She even said she did not believe them to have truth, she should not have gotten baptized.
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Old 07-05-2019, 03:00 PM
 
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I didn't call her a liar, I was there when they said certain songs shouldnt be listened to. Real JW,s do this- Luke 10:16--speaking of Jesus' appointed teachers. It always seemed strange why a domestic thinks they know Gods truth before Jesus' appointed teachers do( Matthew 24:45)-- Everyone has this-Jeremiah 17:9--It is very easy to reason falsely within. In the firstplace--one must disown themselves to followJesus( Matthew 16:24) Then they would accomplish Luke 10:16)
She even said she did not believe them to have truth, she should not have gotten baptized.
Tell me again, WHO appointed these teachers and when?

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Old 07-05-2019, 03:09 PM
Status: "We The North" (set 24 days ago)
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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In the OT God commanded them to be stoned to death. Why would you choose that for one of your family members over shunning? See you do not think clearly. They could still live to repent if only shunned and not killed. Gods will is what occurs over mortal will. It hurts the shunners just as much as it hurts the shunnee, brought on by the shunnee, yet they are always pointing the finger elsewhere.
Thank you for reminding us all of how JWs "think."
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Old 07-05-2019, 03:11 PM
Status: "Summertime, and the living's easy" (set 19 days ago)
 
Location: The Eastern Shore
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You are entitled to your view.
Which is the correct view, in this case at least.
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Old 07-05-2019, 03:13 PM
Status: "Summertime, and the living's easy" (set 19 days ago)
 
Location: The Eastern Shore
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In the OT God commanded them to be stoned to death. Why would you choose that for one of your family members over shunning? See you do not think clearly. They could still live to repent if only shunned and not killed. Gods will is what occurs over mortal will. It hurts the shunners just as much as it hurts the shunnee, brought on by the shunnee, yet they are always pointing the finger elsewhere.
Yes, because those are the best two options, right??? Kill or shun? No other options that you see, huh?

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I didn't call her a liar, I was there when they said certain songs shouldnt be listened to. Real JW,s do this- Luke 10:16--speaking of Jesus' appointed teachers. It always seemed strange why a domestic thinks they know Gods truth before Jesus' appointed teachers do( Matthew 24:45)-- Everyone has this-Jeremiah 17:9--It is very easy to reason falsely within. In the firstplace--one must disown themselves to followJesus( Matthew 16:24) Then they would accomplish Luke 10:16)

She even said she did not believe them to have truth, she should not have gotten baptized.
Like someone in your faith has that choice? We all know how you guys operate, and giving a child the freedom of choice is NOT one of the things you do.

And what would you call it when you tell someone they aren't being honest, and you want the real truth?
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