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Old 07-02-2019, 06:11 PM
 
Location: US
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Originally Posted by Hemlock140 View Post
The solution is to move out on your own, and make your own decisions so they no longer have any leverage over you. Since you canít afford that yet, you should just take their controlling behavior as motivation to save up and get out sooner. How do they take/steal your money? Unless you have some arrangement to pay rent, thatís theft and could be reported to the police.
Oooh, thatís a good thought...
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Old 07-02-2019, 06:14 PM
 
Location: US
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They don't want me to move out so they do anything to make sure I can't. Since I recently turned 18 I'm able to get an insurance check from an accident I was in and basically all the money I'm getting that could be used for me to move out is going to my parents since my mom travels and she uses my dads money. They forced me to go on a trip that I never even wanted to go on in the first place because I wanted to save money they refused and made me go, so since I went (doesn't matter that they forced me to go) I have to pay them back with all the money I receive.
Yea, no you donít...Thatís you thinking that you have to...
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Old 07-02-2019, 06:18 PM
 
Location: US
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(Sad that a young person has to escape from religious parents in this day and age.)


Yes, OP, bank money when you can. If possible, don't mention that you have an account. If they go through your things, try to find a place they can't find account papers or cards. FYI, you can have a checking account without a debit card or ordering checks, if they might use either to empty your account. If needed you can do all your withdrawals of money from the bank in person, but directly deposit any pay you can earn.

Honestly it may sound ridiculous, but if they try to force you to give them the money in your account, you could remind them that the police could be involved. You know them better than me. If mentioning the intervention of police could get you thrown out/homeless or abused, maybe don't mention it. I know a physically abused person whose parents backed off when they were old enough to threaten to call the police.

I realize you might not be being physically abused, but hyper-controlling anyone and trying to keep you without resources, escape, hope or freedom is a form of abuse. I'd suggest looking into organizations that help people escape Mormonism as mentioned in the above.



Keep going to community college. Maybe you can get a scholarship to a 4-year university where you can move into a dorm and be much freer. Eventually you can get a job making enough to get an apartment, etc. and get on with your life. Know that whatever you are going through now IS temporary.
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Old 07-02-2019, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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Ever hear of a bank account?...
Bingo.
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Old 07-04-2019, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Divided Tribes of America
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In America, child abuse is completely legal as long as it is done in the name of religion. As long as the abuse doesn’t leave *visible* scars, there’s not much you can do about it.

As soon as you turn 18, you can escape.
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Old Yesterday, 03:10 PM
 
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Good grief. You don't need a lawyer to leave the LDS Church. You just stop going. Looks like someone is trying to make a buck here.
If you just stop going, you havenít really left. And TSCC still counts you as a member, helping with their inflated membership numbers.

It took threats of legal action for people to finally be able to leave without TSCC excommunicating them.
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Old Yesterday, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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If you just stop going, you haven’t really left. And TSCC still counts you as a member, helping with their inflated membership numbers.
That all depends on your point of view. My sister, brother-in-law, two kids and numerous nieces and nephews left, and while their names are still on the Church's records, for all intents and purposes, they have left. They no longer consider themselves to be LDS and no one they know considers them to be LDS. Membership numbers are meaningless, regardless of which church you're talking about. How many of the world's 1.2 billion Catholics are actually practicing? There isn't a single Christian denomination in the world of any size whose membership numbers are truly representative of whether once-practicing people how many of their members continue to believe and practice.

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It took threats of legal action for people to finally be able to leave without TSCC excommunicating them.
There is a process by which anyone who wishes may have their name removed from "TSCC's" records. The process requires the individual to communicate his desire in writing to his bishop. It may not happen overnight, but it sure as hell is less involved than a lawsuit and costs nothing. The threats of legal action were for the media's benefit and you know that as well as I do. You need to get over yourself, Mr. Phd.

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Old Yesterday, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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There isn't a single Christian denomination in the world of any size whose membership numbers are truly representative of whether once-practicing people how many of their members continue to believe and practice.
And that made absolutely no sense at all. What I meant to say was...

"There isn't a single Christian denomination in the world of any size whose membership numbers are truly representative of how many of their once-active members continue to believe and practice."
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Old Today, 07:06 AM
 
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So I was born into the mormon religion, my parents have been mormon their whole life. They basically dedicate their whole life to this one religion. I'm now 18 and they have told me that I can make my own decisions but it doesn't mean they will agree with me. (Also they've known even since I was 13 I haven't wanted to be apart of the LDS church and they refused to let me make my own decisions)

I've told them multiples times I don't want to be mormon and that I don't believe in it, and they just get mad and punish me. Even when I'm sick in bed and don't go to church they take away my car and disconnect my cell phone. I've dealt with this my whole life and I'm not financially stable enough to support myself so I can get out of this hell hole, especially because every time I do make money they steal it/take it away from me.

The main cause of my depression is because of my parents and them controlling me and my life and trying to force their beliefs and this <<cut>> religion on me. I feel like I'm never going to escape.
First of all, I wouldn't be so hard on your parents. As a parent of an 18 year old kid, I realize I've made mistakes. It's not as easy as one would think it is to raise a kid. They did the best they can, I'm sure. You act as if you've been horribly mistreated, but you have a cell phone and a car. That's pretty nice treatment. They don't owe you a cell phone and a car. Show them some respect.

Having said that, if you wish to leave it, there are many different Christian ministries that seek to minister to ex-Mormons. Some are good, some are probably not so good. But are you looking for an "ex mormom" ministry? Or just a good Baptist Church? Are you looking for any church? What is it that you're looking for here?
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Old Today, 09:22 AM
 
Location: USA
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So I was born into the mormon religion, my parents have been mormon their whole life. They basically dedicate their whole life to this one religion. I'm now 18 and they have told me that I can make my own decisions but it doesn't mean they will agree with me. (Also they've known even since I was 13 I haven't wanted to be apart of the LDS church and they refused to let me make my own decisions)

I've told them multiples times I don't want to be mormon and that I don't believe in it, and they just get mad and punish me. Even when I'm sick in bed and don't go to church they take away my car and disconnect my cell phone. I've dealt with this my whole life and I'm not financially stable enough to support myself so I can get out of this hell hole, especially because every time I do make money they steal it/take it away from me.

The main cause of my depression is because of my parents and them controlling me and my life and trying to force their beliefs and this <<cut>> religion on me. I feel like I'm never going to escape.
Just be intellectually honest with yourself. If resisting your parents attempts at indoctrination make your life difficult, then make it easy on yourself by playing along with them. When you reach the point that you are fully independent, THEN feel free to take a stand.

Just be careful not to marry a hardcore doctrine air believer. That could extend your problems for a lifetime.
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