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Old Yesterday, 04:39 PM
 
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WELL, AGAIN we see the Hypocritical thinking of the Christian right. Again, (it seems like we do have this all to often) a pastor has sexually abused a teen, this time an adopted daughter, and in typical "It's ok when WE do it" fashion, his congregation shows up to talk about what a great Christian man he is and how his church needs him. Churches already seem to have plenty of men like him, based on crime reports, and perhaps this partially explains the sordid state of Christianity in America.

When I was a kid, in the Baptist church, our pastor's daughter ran away from home at 15. She returned a year later, told some close friends that she had been molested by her father. Word got out in the church, the town small town Baptist, and the excuses ranged from"Oh that's a family problem not a church problem" to |"well that's different" to "Do no talk about that" Whatever happened, nothing came of it. But he did abruptly announce his resignation(his "CALLING TO Missionary work") and disappeared from everyone's lives forever Thank the FSM. But there was no investigation or crime or anything back then, decades ago, not like today where it makes headlines and people get carted off to jail. It may have been more common than anyone wants to admit.
But this type of garbage still happens in Christianity all the time, from Jimmy Swaggart's hired escorts all the way down to the small minded Tennessee congregation in the Bible belt like the one above.

It's a shame though that Christianity and the Church are so "Perfect" as to allow this sort of thing to happen.

As the article says

How warped must a religion be where a man like this can be considered a faithful devotee? But that is what Christianity is.........And this article is proof of that. Amen.

Personally, I would love to see someone put the green light on this guy in prison and let him find out first hand if his Jesus is real or not. Maybe a visit from Mr Broomstick after the weekly Bible study would be in line.
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Old Yesterday, 04:49 PM
 
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a good cop abuses his daughter
a good teacher abuses his daughter
a good accountant abuses his daughter

good people abuse their children.

but yeah, to your last line, lets put them all in prison and let it sort itself out.

oh wait, that isn't fair. its way more fair to have a second, third, and forth victim. you know, "we didn't do anything."
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Old Yesterday, 08:46 PM
 
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It's a fact that men joined the priesthood because they had a propensity for pederasty, in the same way men with an inclination for children targeted single mothers at Parents Without Partners meetings. So why are we surprised that men in the grips of abnormal sexual illnesses became Christians and were able to beautifully and convincingly walk the walk and talk the talk even though they were atheists and then got into positions of responsibility over children because they could count on gullible Christian pushovers defending them despite their bad behavior if they just cried crocodile tears and repented with trembling lips like Jimmy Swaggert did with his, "I have sinned."


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Men have been using Christianity for their personal gain for millennia. Dumb Christians have been forgiving them for doing it for as long.
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Old Yesterday, 09:31 PM
 
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They are Pharisees. Condemned by Jesus.

What's the point of this thread?
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Old Yesterday, 09:38 PM
 
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WELL, AGAIN we see the Hypocritical thinking of the Christian right. Again, (it seems like we do have this all to often) a pastor has sexually abused a teen, this time an adopted daughter, and in typical "It's ok when WE do it" fashion, his congregation shows up to talk about what a great Christian man he is and how his church needs him. Churches already seem to have plenty of men like him, based on crime reports, and perhaps this partially explains the sordid state of Christianity in America.

When I was a kid, in the Baptist church, our pastor's daughter ran away from home at 15. She returned a year later, told some close friends that she had been molested by her father. Word got out in the church, the town small town Baptist, and the excuses ranged from"Oh that's a family problem not a church problem" to |"well that's different" to "Do no talk about that" Whatever happened, nothing came of it. But he did abruptly announce his resignation(his "CALLING TO Missionary work") and disappeared from everyone's lives forever Thank the FSM. But there was no investigation or crime or anything back then, decades ago, not like today where it makes headlines and people get carted off to jail. It may have been more common than anyone wants to admit.
But this type of garbage still happens in Christianity all the time, from Jimmy Swaggart's hired escorts all the way down to the small minded Tennessee congregation in the Bible belt like the one above.

It's a shame though that Christianity and the Church are so "Perfect" as to allow this sort of thing to happen.

As the article says

How warped must a religion be where a man like this can be considered a faithful devotee? But that is what Christianity is.........And this article is proof of that. Amen.

Personally, I would love to see someone put the green light on this guy in prison and let him find out first hand if his Jesus is real or not. Maybe a visit from Mr Broomstick after the weekly Bible study would be in line.
Sad as it gets; however, wolf in a sheep’s cloak, they are everywhere. You may want to consider going beyond your tunnel vision that seemed to be focused on Church only.

You seem to target “religion” to take out your frustration; unless you could tell us that religion and God tells these monsters and creeps in the churches to prey on kids, I am not buying your rhetoric.

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Old Yesterday, 10:07 PM
 
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They are Pharisees. Condemned by Jesus.

What's the point of this thread?
It may have started when, in another thread, you complained that atheists are prone to cursing and...was it anger? At least that's what I thought of when I read your post in that thread and then found this thread. You wanna make generalizations? So can we.
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Old Yesterday, 11:02 PM
 
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Sad as it gets; however, wolf in a sheep’s cloak, they are everywhere. You may want to consider going beyond your tunnel vision that seemed to be focused on Church only.

You seem to target “religion” to take out your frustration; unless you could tell us that religion and God tells these monsters and creeps in the churches to prey on kids, I am not buying your rhetoric.

I think Cat's point is that while this kind of abuse goes on everywhere, mostly perpetrated by parents, uncles and even grandfathers against their own minor family members, churchmen are in especially powerful positions and as so-called "men of God" (HA!) they are held to a higher standard of conduct than ordinary atheists who these so-called "men of God" (HA!) have labeled as degenerates who don't have any internal moral compass because of their lack of belief in the churchmen's god. It's all bombastic rhetoric to cover up their own moral degeneracy, of course.
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Old Yesterday, 11:34 PM
 
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Sad as it gets; however, wolf in a sheep’s cloak, they are everywhere. You may want to consider going beyond your tunnel vision that seemed to be focused on Church only.

You seem to target “religion” to take out your frustration; unless you could tell us that religion and God tells these monsters and creeps in the churches to prey on kids, I am not buying your rhetoric.
Well, it was God himself, that cast Satan and the other fallen angels, down to earth (AMONG US), and 'allowed' them the ability to interact and influence things in our lives!!
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Old Today, 03:24 AM
 
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Well, it was God himself, that cast Satan and the other fallen angels, down to earth (AMONG US), and 'allowed' them the ability to interact and influence things in our lives!!
Ah, no...
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Old Today, 05:42 AM
 
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Sad as it gets; however, wolf in a sheep’s cloak, they are everywhere. You may want to consider going beyond your tunnel vision that seemed to be focused on Church only.

You seem to target “religion” to take out your frustration; unless you could tell us that religion and God tells these monsters and creeps in the churches to prey on kids, I am not buying your rhetoric.
The difference is that those offenders outside the Church do not get excused, treated as saints for some exhibition repentance and do not get an organisation covering up for them, and then lecturing usall about how sinful we all are and how we should take the organisation as our moral mentors.

This isn't about whether the religion is true, but about whether such an organisation deserves respect and support.
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