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Old Today, 04:56 AM
 
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Only in the twisted thinking of the theist. The correct version of this strawman is 'Bad things happen, so the claims for an intervening god don't stack up. Therefore we still have no valid reason to believe in a god'.
You have no clue how horrifying that sounds.

One piece of clay doesn't get to decide how the potter should act.

I thank God everyday that people don't get to decide how things should be.
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Old Today, 05:06 AM
Status: "Scarface IS fiction!" (set 7 days ago)
 
Location: Germany
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You have no clue how horrifying that sounds.

One piece of clay doesn't get to decide how the potter should act.
True but irrelevant to the point, which is why 39 people died. Think of all the possible reasons a god would allow them to die, and if these reasons are more probable than there being no god to save them.
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Old Today, 05:26 AM
 
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You have no clue how horrifying that sounds.

One piece of clay doesn't get to decide how the potter should act.

I thank God everyday that people don't get to decide how things should be.
ozzy.

forget the anti-god-e type atheist.

what we ask is "how can we see these things happen and the type of "hands on god" you describe be correct."

Do you understand that many atheist think that some of the traits you assign to this god thing are wrong. yeah, you have some correct. and many atheist believe in something, its just that some religous people try and take over to tell us it must be this or that .. if not ...we burn.

we also feel that religion doesn't get to decide how the potter should dress, what building type he must use, and what they must make to be a real potter.
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Old Today, 06:44 AM
 
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You have no clue how horrifying that sounds.

One piece of clay doesn't get to decide how the potter should act.

I thank God everyday that people don't get to decide how things should be.
You are welcome to find the idea horrifying. For me it is quite liberating.
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Old Today, 07:33 AM
Status: "Summertime, and the living's easy" (set 21 days ago)
 
Location: The Eastern Shore
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So sorry you picked this place to share your story.
Not the right audience, m'dear.
Is there a good place to share a story where you thank God for saving you and some meaningless stuff, but killing 37 others????

This goes back to the convo we had elsewhere, Miss. If you are going to thank God for saving you, you must then BLAME God for killing the others, or at the very least, allowing them to die. It's ridiculous, and goes to show just how "special" these people believe they are.

"Everyone else didn't deserve to be save, I DID! God chose ME!"

Like I said, it is ridiculous and delusional.
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Old Today, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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You have no clue how horrifying that sounds.

One piece of clay doesn't get to decide how the potter should act.

I thank God everyday that people don't get to decide how things should be.
Yes, I see where you're coming from -- that man does not have the right to freedom of thought and freedom of expression. And while I may wish you didn't, I hope mankind exercises freedom of thought and freedom of expression.
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Old Today, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA
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I love talking to the already converted....I don't get any darn guff!!!!
I hate all you other wiseguys!
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Old Today, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Is there a good place to share a story where you thank God for saving you and some meaningless stuff, but killing 37 others????

This goes back to the convo we had elsewhere, Miss. If you are going to thank God for saving you, you must then BLAME God for killing the others, or at the very least, allowing them to die. It's ridiculous, and goes to show just how "special" these people believe they are.

"Everyone else didn't deserve to be save, I DID! God chose ME!"

Like I said, it is ridiculous and delusional.
In my observation a lot of religious people are immune to survivor guilt.............at least publicly.

It certainly doesn't fit the "loving god" agenda to focus on the deaths.
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Old Today, 11:36 AM
Status: "Summertime, and the living's easy" (set 21 days ago)
 
Location: The Eastern Shore
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In my observation a lot of religious people are immune to survivor guilt.............at least publicly.

It certainly doesn't fit the "loving god" agenda to focus on the deaths.
It's crazy... They are literally saying that God saved them, but left many others to die. They are saying they are soooo special, that God chose them, and let the rest die. I just can't comprehend that kind of thinking, at all.
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Old Today, 11:47 AM
 
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One image that stuck in my mind (Atheistic UK News probably picked it deliberately )was after a hurricane through the Bible belt, a gaggle of people were standing in the total ruins of their house (not even the prayer-room standing)holding hands, tears streaming down their faces and praising God. I could understand just why they were doing it, and i sympathised. But ...total delusion.
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Christian: I lost my house, my husband and everything in it. I don't have insurance so I'm going to be homeless. But Jesus seen fit to save the tea set my great granddaddy gave me. Praise Jesus! He is soooo good!
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