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Old 07-20-2019, 01:35 PM
 
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When fascism comes to America it will be called AntiFa and carry weapons to bludgeon reporters to suppress speech and firebomb ICE facilities.
Is that fascism or anarchism? Not that i see a lot of difference..
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Old 07-20-2019, 01:44 PM
 
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So what bit was 'untrue' in the previous post?
That Faith necessarily makes you blind to the Bible's content.
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Old 07-20-2019, 01:47 PM
 
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When fascism comes to America it will be called AntiFa and carry weapons to bludgeon reporters to suppress speech and firebomb ICE facilities.
I've got to sign off now and waste no more time wasting time here, but please...

Antifa's goal is to fight fascism. What Antifa[scism] stands for!

Whether the violence is warranted is another matter. I'm always hard-pressed to justify violence no matter the cause, but also of course when it comes to the likes of fascism, the question of how best to fight it becomes more acute. Either way we have laws that tend to address this sort of thing regardless what sort of extremism someone or some group promotes.

Biggest problem is when people don't know their fascism from their absolutism, or what to do about any bad isms in general. Badisms like racism, sexism, classism, ableism, antiSemitism and fascism really should not be tolerated in any case. Regardless in what form...
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Old 07-20-2019, 01:57 PM
 
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That Faith necessarily makes you blind to the Bible's content.
ok I get it. With 'Faith' one can still believe what ..one can still believe, while rejecting the rest on reason. Yes, fair point. It is not 'unquestioning' Faith...but still, Faith.

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I've got to sign off now and waste no more time wasting time here, but please...

Antifa's goal is to fight fascism. What Antifa[scism] stands for!

Whether the violence is warranted is another matter. I'm always hard-pressed to justify violence no matter the cause, but also of course when it comes to the likes of fascism, the question of how best to fight it becomes more acute. Either way we have laws that tend to address this sort of thing regardless what sort of extremism someone or some group promotes.

Biggest problem is when people don't know their fascism from their absolutism, or what to do about any bad isms in general. Badisms like racism, sexism, classism, ableism, antiSemitism and fascism really should not be tolerated in any case. Regardless in what form...
Good idea, aa we are now bordering on Politics.
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Old 07-20-2019, 02:10 PM
 
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I've got to sign off now and waste no more time wasting time here, but please...

Antifa's goal is to fight fascism. What Antifa[scism] stands for!

Whether the violence is warranted is another matter. I'm always hard-pressed to justify violence no matter the cause, but also of course when it comes to the likes of fascism, the question of how best to fight it becomes more acute. Either way we have laws that tend to address this sort of thing regardless what sort of extremism someone or some group promotes.

Biggest problem is when people don't know their fascism from their absolutism, or what to do about any bad isms in general. Badisms like racism, sexism, classism, ableism, antiSemitism and fascism really should not be tolerated in any case. Regardless in what form...
The First Amendment protects religious freedom and speech that is NON-VIOLENT. You cannot protest fascism using the methods of fascism.
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Old 07-20-2019, 02:12 PM
 
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Arguing who is "at the top" whether in the past or present, as if such beliefs are what determines who better or worse when it comes to what makes America good or bad. Which Americans are good or bad. That's the sort of thing fascists tend to get behind rather than the simple focus on what is right or wrong, better or worse, good or bad, regardless our differences having to do with race, culture, religion or sex.

That's how I mean.
Perhaps I should have put a period after my sentence, instead of a question mark.

But what you just wrote is similar (I think) to what you said above.

Christians, in general, and on this site are -- in my view -- focusing on the wrong thing most of the time.

They tend to focus on what they see are the "facts" of the bible. "Facts", which for the most part, can NEVER be proven. As we saw last week, another poster found that a particular village had been proven to exist, and then extrapolated that that proved the bible to be true and valid as a source of history. Well, no. Simply no.

Let's take the Sermon On The Mount. They can never prove where it occurred...or even if it occurred. They can never prove a man named Jesus said those words. Then never prove when it was said. Never prove it. Not ever. Never. Yet, that's what they want to do battle about.

What I rarely hear them discuss are the principles in the Sermon On The Mount. And that's what's really important -- the principles. Are they valid in today's world? If yes, how do we incorporate them into our lives. If they are no longer valid in today's world...that's okay too...discuss alternative principles.

If they would simply base their faith on the validity of principles, half the arguments about their religion would disappear.
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Old 07-20-2019, 05:09 PM
 
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No, no. You can't pull that. For the most part, chrsitians have always been at the top here. And if you don't know that, then you don't belong on a public discussion site.

In fact, since in a previous post you tried to claim America was founded by christian based on christian principles, you're now arguing with yourself.
The people are Christians. The leaders are atheists.
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Old 07-20-2019, 05:11 PM
 
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Okay, but as a rule it's very hard for me to separate faith and anything having to do with Christians, their politics included. Call me simple...

Actually, you were correct. I was talking about the faith of the American people.
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Old 07-20-2019, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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The people are Christians. The leaders are atheists.
Who are all these atheist presidents and senators?

Is this another witch hunt where Ozzy decides who the real christians are?
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Old 07-20-2019, 05:29 PM
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I'm amazed that anyone responds with any degree of seriousness to anything Ozzy posts.
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