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Old 07-22-2019, 10:52 AM
 
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I find the Bible educates us as to what happens to one's soul at death. The soul dies - Ezekiel 18:4,20; Rev. 16:3 B.
The soul can be destroyed as per Acts 3:23.
Before God breathed the ' breath of life ' into life-less Adam, Adam was a life-less soul - Genesis 2:7
So, Adam went from non-life, to life, and returned to non-life. While alive Adam was a living soul. At death a dead soul.
No post-mortem penalty for Adam, No double jeopardy for Adam, and none for us.
A person can Not ' return ' to a place he never was before.- Genesis 3:19.
Adam (people) are offered everlasting life on a beautiful paradisical Earth as Eden was a sample blueprint to follow.
The only exception is the one Jesus made for those like Daniel 7:18 who will be resurrected to heaven - Rev. 20:6; 2:10.
The rest of mankind can be part of the humble meek who will inherit the Earth as promised at Psalm 37:9-11; Matthew 5:5.

Jesus knew what happens at death because Jesus was well educated in the old Hebrew Scriptures.
Both teach the dead are in an unconscious sleep-like state:
- Psalms 6:5; 13:3; 115:17; Isaiah 38:18; Ecclesiastes 9:5; John 11:11-14.
The only hope for the dead is the coming Resurrection Hope - Rev. 1:18; Acts 24:15

The Bible provides us with the details of the belief system that our ancient ancestors developed to explain mysteries that they had no means to understand. When a person dies their brain rapidly deteriorates due to the lack of oxygen. A dead brain takes on a consistency somewhat like jelly fairly quickly. The neural pathways fall completely apart, as do the ganglion. Thoughts and memories are lost. This is what dead is.

All other declarations of extended existence after death are utter make believe and fantasy. The proof is in the observed fact that billions of people have died and have resolutely remained quite dead. Make believe and heart felt declarations which are nothing more than flights of fantasy have no effect on physical reality, I am afraid.
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Old 07-22-2019, 01:18 PM
 
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The Bible provides us with the details of the belief system that our ancient ancestors developed to explain mysteries that they had no means to understand. When a person dies their brain rapidly deteriorates due to the lack of oxygen. A dead brain takes on a consistency somewhat like jelly fairly quickly. The neural pathways fall completely apart, as do the ganglion. Thoughts and memories are lost. This is what dead is.

All other declarations of extended existence after death are utter make-believe and fantasy. The proof is in the observed fact that billions of people have died and have resolutely remained quite dead. Make-believe and heartfelt declarations which are nothing more than flights of fantasy have no effect on physical reality, I am afraid.
As long as you actually think YOU (the thinking, feeling, evaluating, creating, etc. Being) are the meat in your brain, you will not be able to recognize that YOU are actually a composite of resonant neural activity (EM activity) which is vastly different in form from matter.
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Old 07-22-2019, 01:33 PM
 
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Our conscious has taken residence in another body with a brand new brain to cherish new memories and experience.

Rinse and repeat.

That's not how it works, but I can see why people want to delude themselves into believing that's how it works.
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Old 07-22-2019, 01:56 PM
 
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As long as you actually think YOU (the thinking, feeling, evaluating, creating, etc. Being) are the meat in your brain, you will not be able to recognize that YOU are actually a composite of resonant neural activity (EM activity) which is vastly different in form from matter.
The formation of matter is the result of a specific kind of clumping that occurs in response to the interaction of positive and negatively charged bits of energy. The "thinking, feeling, evaluating, creating, etc.," being that is each of us is driven by the same positive/negative attraction/repulsion phenomenon that is the little motor that drives the entire universe and is responsible for everything that occurs. We may not fully understand it all yet, but that does not mean that the operation of the human brain, much as with the operation of the universe at large, is the result of supernatural forces at work.
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Old 07-22-2019, 02:38 PM
 
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The formation of matter is the result of a specific kind of clumping that occurs in response to the interaction of positive and negatively charged bits of energy. The "thinking, feeling, evaluating, creating, etc.," being that is each of us is driven by the same positive/negative attraction/repulsion phenomenon that is the little motor that drives the entire universe and is responsible for everything that occurs. We may not fully understand it all yet, but that does not mean that the operation of the human brain, much as with the operation of the universe at large, is the result of supernatural forces at work.
You will never see me attributing anything to the supernatural since it does not exist, just what we do not currently understand. Our Reality is vibrations in a substrate (unified field) that manifests in various aggregate forms of energy/mass/momentum. Resonance/dissonance is the operative force for the attraction/repulsion and positive/negative effects. Our awareness and sense of Self is a resonant neural field comprised of a composite of neural synaptic firings which is in no way comprised of matter.
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Old 07-23-2019, 11:33 AM
 
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You will never see me attributing anything to the supernatural since it does not exist, ...
What? Every post you make is about the supernatural.

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... YOU are actually a composite of resonant neural activity (EM activity)...
Here you have given electro-magnetic waves supernatural powers.
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Old 07-23-2019, 01:00 PM
 
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Mystic, this is a perfect illustration of the thought process (or way of presenting, at least) that gets you in trouble. You follow a completely lucid, defensible, accurate statement like this....

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You will never see me attributing anything to the supernatural since it does not exist, just what we do not currently understand.
With an entirely speculative, borderline-woo, indefensible string of words that suggest you actually *DO* understand something no one else does, like this...

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Our Reality is vibrations in a substrate (unified field) that manifests in various aggregate forms of energy/mass/momentum. Resonance/dissonance is the operative force for the attraction/repulsion and positive/negative effects. Our awareness and sense of Self is a resonant neural field comprised of a composite of neural synaptic firings which is in no way comprised of matter.
Readers could take that for what it's worth, if you had a disclaimer at the end of every post that said, in effect, "I'm just spitballing here!" But you rarely offer disclaimers.
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Old 07-23-2019, 04:39 PM
 
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What? Every post you make is about the supernatural.
Here you have given electromagnetic waves supernatural powers.
Nonsense. Neurosynaptic firings form our consciousness and they exist in the EM spectrum. Their resonant neural composite (the Thinker/Feeler/Evaluator that IS our awareness) is likewise in that form though we currently cannot measure it which is why I refer to it as EM-like. It has nothing to do with the non-existent supernatural.
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Old 07-24-2019, 08:37 PM
 
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Nonsense. Neurosynaptic firings form our consciousness and they exist in the EM spectrum. Their resonant neural composite (the Thinker/Feeler/Evaluator that IS our awareness) is likewise in that form though we currently cannot measure it which is why I refer to it as EM-like. It has nothing to do with the non-existent supernatural.
So you are positively asserting characteristics of something that cannot be measured.

That is the most perfect example of making stuff up that I have ever seen.
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Old 07-24-2019, 09:07 PM
 
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So you are positively asserting characteristics of something that cannot be measured.
That is the most perfect example of making stuff up that I have ever seen.
Pointing to the source of our consciousness as in EM form is a legitimate basis for suggesting that the composite produced FROM those EM energy forms would be itself an EM-like form of energy even though we cannot currently measure it since over 95+% of our universe is NOT measurable. That is immensely different from "just making things up."
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