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Old 08-06-2019, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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This Scripture is meant for people who call themselves "Christians." What does it mean to be Christian?
Christian = Followers of Christ
To be a follower of Christ means you voluntarily embrace his teachings and your actions reflect his teachings.
Just because you belong to a Christian church or call yourself a Christian does not a Christian make.
And just because one follows a doctrine shouldn't set your keyboard ablaze.
There isn't anything wrong in following a doctrine as long as it's in line with what Christ and the apostles taught.
If it isn't then the doctrine should be tossed out.
Why did you not understand what Jesus meant?
I say toss it all out.

Oh wait...according to your post, no one but christians have a say in it.
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Old 08-06-2019, 01:10 PM
 
Location: California USA
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I say toss it all out.

Oh wait...according to your post, no one but christians have a say in it.
A say in what?
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Old 08-06-2019, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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A say in what?
You said: "There isn't anything wrong in following a doctrine as long as it's in line with what Christ and the apostles taught. If it isn't then the doctrine should be tossed out."

Well, I'm Buddhist. Guess I'm required to toss it out. Hell no.
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Old 08-06-2019, 04:16 PM
 
Location: California USA
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You said: "There isn't anything wrong in following a doctrine as long as it's in line with what Christ and the apostles taught. If it isn't then the doctrine should be tossed out."

Well, I'm Buddhist. Guess I'm required to toss it out. Hell no.
I said that in the context of Matthew 7:22 read the post. Matthew 7:22 was directed at Christians. If you say you're a Christian....then your doctrines should be in line with the teachings of Christ, right?

Actually Buddhists, the ones I've met want the same things Christians want or some of us anyway: Peace, happy family life, stability.
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:12 PM
 
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I said that in the context of Matthew 7:22 read the post. Matthew 7:22 was directed at Christians. If you say you're a Christian....then your doctrines should be in line with the teachings of Christ, right?

Actually Buddhists, the ones I've met want the same things Christians want or some of us anyway: Peace, happy family life, stability.
People generally want the same things - the ideals of Humanist society. The religions may be good for those things or bad, or indifferent. But they are not what makes us want those things; humanist social codes are.
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Amen, Arq. You are getting it.
i would like to think that you are, too. Regrettably I suspect that you have a ghost Bible of your own-you never really Understand my posts but reinterpret them to fit what Beliefs you have.
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:22 PM
 
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I would like to think that you are, too. Regrettably, I suspect that you have a ghost Bible of your own-you never really Understand my posts but reinterpret them to fit what Beliefs you have.
I could simply reflect this comment back at you because that is what I see you doing to my views.
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Old 08-06-2019, 06:21 PM
 
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I could simply reflect this comment back at you because that is what I see you doing to my views.
But I give the reasons and explanations, and you ignore or evade or deny them.
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Old 08-06-2019, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I said that in the context of Matthew 7:22 read the post. Matthew 7:22 was directed at Christians. If you say you're a Christian....then your doctrines should be in line with the teachings of Christ, right?

Actually Buddhists, the ones I've met want the same things Christians want or some of us anyway: Peace, happy family life, stability.
Look, I can't guess what another poster wants to say, I can only read what he/she actually wrote.

But even then, regardless of which religion one associates with (and I use that phrase intentionally), that shouldn't mean that one has to swallow a religion hook, line, and sinker. There are things in Buddhism I don't agree with...and guess what...in Buddhism you don't have to. I'm allowed freedom of thought. It ought to be that way in christianity, instead of someone like Ozzy deciding who is or isn't a real christian.
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Old 08-06-2019, 08:33 PM
 
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I’m embarrassed by American Christianity. I’m just not ready to give up on Jesus

Give up on Jesus, Russ. He's a dead end. He doesn't answer prayer. He doesn't speak back when you pray to him or try to have conversations with him. He's nowhere to be found when you face some mind-numbing catastrophe. In other words, he just plain useless--he might as well not even exist. And in truth he doesn't. He's just a faded memory, just like all of us when we check out.
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Old 08-06-2019, 09:26 PM
 
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Give up on Jesus, Russ. He's a dead end. He doesn't answer prayer. He doesn't speak back when you pray to him or try to have conversations with him. He's nowhere to be found when you face some mind-numbing catastrophe. In other words, he just plain useless--he might as well not even exist. And in truth, he doesn't. He's just a faded memory, just like all of us when we check out.
You have just condemned yourself to separation from the Comforter sent in Jesus's name by deliberate rejection and denialism. Sad, very sad. Fortunately, the Comforter will not desert you whether or not you ever respond to His presence.
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