Free masons (Jerusalem, verse, originate, Judaism)

[ptsum]

[quote=forest beekeeper;7959002]One generation of our brothers wrote the US Constitution.

Another generation of our brothers were very active during the US war of Northern Aggression. Both in arranging parlays, and truces to allow the wounded to be removed from the battlefields for treatment, and smuggling people away from danger.

Again a generation of masons were very active during The Great World War.

I grew up watching 'Hogan's Heroes'; it was not until many years later that I learned what it was all about. Masonry worked well with co-masonry during WWII. I did not entirely learn Masonry's role in WWII until I lived in Europe and attended lodge there.

During the Great Depression, while everyone everywhere was out of work and trying to survive. American Masons not only helped each other but they brought about great changes in our nation's literacy too. Before FDR, masons had been gaining support in the effort to bring about a guaranteed education for every US citizen. Regardless of social class. This was a huge change in thought. Everyone else insisted that only the upper classes should have access to an education. The desire to see equality among men was held as a noble effort among masons. Through a lot of effort they were able to bring that to pass. Today every child can attend primary education for free [thanks to Masonry]. Secondary education has been re-structured so that if someone is poor their secondary education is given to them as a 'grant' for free. If your family is a higher social class, then you get less grants. Up until the point where the wealthy are the only college students left to pay for their college education entirely without assistance. If you received a free primary education you should be thanking a mason. If you attended college and received a scholarship grant, you should thank a mason.

Hey if your wife gets pregnant, do you think that maybe she should have prenatal vitamins? have you ever heard that maybe she needs to be taking 'folic acid'? to prevent your child from having spina bifida? Gee, ever wonder who did the medical research to figure that out? The link between folic acid and spina bifida? Maybe a system of 22 Children's Hospitals all focused on treating childhood disorders could do that. Each hospital has one floor dedicated to medical research, to find cures for children's disorders. Yes Shriners did that. If you have a child, without spina bifida, well, you see the pattern here, thank one of the guys who supports that research.

Children with health problems get treatment in Children's Hospitals and there is no government funding. The parent's insurance is billed only if the insurance is already in place to already cover it. Otherwise there is never a bill printed. Because that is what Shriners do.

The world today does have issues, problems plague us.

However there are some groups of men trying to make some things better.

ad maiorem Dei gloriam[/quote]

inque hominum saluten

[effie g-tad]

nobility deserving recognition.

further "questions" pending..

[Submariner]

Originally Posted by ptsum

... ad maiorem Dei gloriam ...
... inque hominum saluten

Exactly.

[Michigan Transplant]

I did a specific search about the Masonic organization, and found this thread. My husband and I are not together at this time, just happened a few months ago, and I do not plan to divorce. We have been together 38 years. He is a Mason, Past Master, not currently practicing, but we pay his masonic dues every year because our plan was to retire to the Masonic Home in Michigan when that time comes. (We still may if we get back together, or I may if he passes before me). I am a Christian, he has not been, but I am ministering to him. Something caught my eye that made me concerned, and I want to make sure the Masons is a Christian group, and not a cult,or an un-Godly organization, or "other god" believing group, etc. From the first page of this thread (too many to go through) it appears the Masons are a Christian group. All I need is for confirmation of this.

Is the Masonic home in Michigan the only one? I thought I heard of one other, but I don't know where. If in a warm climate, could I/we retire to that one instead of Michigan's?

Any and all of your comments are appreciated.

[gabfest]

Originally Posted by Michigan Transplant

I did a specific search about the Masonic organization, and found this thread. My husband and I are not together at this time, just happened a few months ago, and I do not plan to divorce. We have been together 38 years. He is a Mason, Past Master, not currently practicing, but we pay his masonic dues every year because our plan was to retire to the Masonic Home in Michigan when that time comes. (We still may if we get back together, or I may if he passes before me). I am a Christian, he has not been, but I am ministering to him. Something caught my eye that made me concerned, and I want to make sure the Masons is a Christian group, and not a cult,or an un-Godly organization, or "other god" believing group, etc. From the first page of this thread (too many to go through) it appears the Masons are a Christian group. All I need is for confirmation of this.

Is the Masonic home in Michigan the only one? I thought I heard of one other, but I don't know where. If in a warm climate, could I/we retire to that one instead of Michigan's?

Any and all of your comments are appreciated.

There are Christians that are Masons but the Masonic Orginization is not a per se Christian group. Ptsum is very knowledgeable I'am sure you have gathered that already; hopefully he'll chime in for certainity on this issue. If not, maybe you could dm him.

[LuminousTruth]

Originally Posted by Michigan Transplant

I did a specific search about the Masonic organization, and found this thread. My husband and I are not together at this time, just happened a few months ago, and I do not plan to divorce. We have been together 38 years. He is a Mason, Past Master, not currently practicing, but we pay his masonic dues every year because our plan was to retire to the Masonic Home in Michigan when that time comes. (We still may if we get back together, or I may if he passes before me). I am a Christian, he has not been, but I am ministering to him. Something caught my eye that made me concerned, and I want to make sure the Masons is a Christian group, and not a cult,or an un-Godly organization, or "other god" believing group, etc. From the first page of this thread (too many to go through) it appears the Masons are a Christian group. All I need is for confirmation of this.

Is the Masonic home in Michigan the only one? I thought I heard of one other, but I don't know where. If in a warm climate, could I/we retire to that one instead of Michigan's?

Any and all of your comments are appreciated.

can't you ask your husband? I'm sure that there are many organizations that merely claim to be from the original freemasons.

[Submariner]

Originally Posted by Michigan Transplant

... Is the Masonic home in Michigan the only one? I thought I heard of one other, but I don't know where. If in a warm climate, could I/we retire to that one instead of Michigan's?

Any and all of your comments are appreciated.

As far as I know most states have many Masonic homes.

I did not know that Michigan only has one.

[Submariner]

Originally Posted by LuminousTruth

... I'm sure that there are many organizations that merely claim to be from the original freemasons.

Good point.

Aside from the Ancient, Free and Accepted Masons; there are also Prince Hall Masons, Universal Masons, and others.

I am most familiar with A.F.A.M. but there may be among the others that they might have fewer retirement homes.

[ptsum]

Originally Posted by Michigan Transplant

I did a specific search about the Masonic organization, and found this thread. My husband and I are not together at this time, just happened a few months ago, and I do not plan to divorce. We have been together 38 years. He is a Mason, Past Master, not currently practicing, but we pay his masonic dues every year because our plan was to retire to the Masonic Home in Michigan when that time comes. (We still may if we get back together, or I may if he passes before me). I am a Christian, he has not been, but I am ministering to him. Something caught my eye that made me concerned, and I want to make sure the Masons is a Christian group, and not a cult,or an un-Godly organization, or "other god" believing group, etc. From the first page of this thread (too many to go through) it appears the Masons are a Christian group. All I need is for confirmation of this.

Is the Masonic home in Michigan the only one? I thought I heard of one other, but I don't know where. If in a warm climate, could I/we retire to that one instead of Michigan's?

Any and all of your comments are appreciated.

Michigan Transplant, the Masonic Fraternity is not a strictly Christian organization, it is however a fraternity of many different faiths and beliefs, so you'll have Christians and Jews and those of other faiths that may reside in the different Masonic Homes. Now each Masonic jurisdiction has its own Masonic Homes, so what I would suggest is that you get in touch with the Grand Secretary of the Grand Lodge of what ever jurisdiction that your in and he should have the information that you may need. I'm sure you will have no problem meeting other Christians in whatever Masonic Home you go to and rest assured the Masonic fraternity is not a cult.

Let me give you the information for The Grand Lodge of Michigan: the Grand Secretary's office's phone number is, 616-459-2451. The address is, The Grand Lodge of Michigan, 233 E. Fulton Masonic Temple Suite 20, Grand Rapids, Michigan 49503
Hope this is helpful.

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by ptsum

I am a Freemason, a 32nd degree Scottish Rite Knight Commander Court of Honor Freemason from the Valley of Washington, DC, Past Master of four different lodges in Washington, DC, past Grand Lodge Officer of the Grand Lodge of the District of Columbia in Washington, DC, Past Wise Master of the Evangelist Chapter Rose Croix A.A.S.R. and a Knights Templar, and what you just posted is entirely wrong.

I'm not surprised. When it comes to a topic like Freemasonry, the only individuals who are qualified to be dispensing information are Freemasons. Whenever there is something secretive about a group, people insist on assuming the worst. From my very limited perspective, there is no reason for all the hatred and panic. The Masons do a great deal of good in their communities and America is a lot better place because of their generous giving.