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Old 08-22-2019, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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What do you think?
I am open to so much. I have no illusions that I know everything.
What a wondrous exciting place this life is....to be closed and think you know it all is silly, in my opinion.
Why would anyone, ie, Muslim or Jew or whatever hang onto 'their' belief system? Only?
You?
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Old 08-22-2019, 04:27 PM
 
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What do you think?
I am open to so much. I have no illusions that I know everything.
What a wondrous exciting place this life is....to be closed and think you know it all is silly, in my opinion.
Why would anyone, ie, Muslim or Jew or whatever hang onto 'their' belief system? Only?
You?
I think using our intelligence, knowledge, life experiences and social set up helps us in day to day life we use our resources in identifying the potential consequences AND potential rewards. And based on these probabilities we take certain decisions.

I think it's a pick between
"NOT putting my hand in fire because it may burn my skin"
vs
"lets put my hand in fire as it may open 'new ideas' to me.


I am still not sure what new ideas are you referring to or what exactly is it that religious people are missing out on because they are not open to those supposedly "new ideas"?
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Old 08-22-2019, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Log home in the Appalachians
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What do you think?
I am open to so much. I have no illusions that I know everything.
What a wondrous exciting place this life is....to be closed and think you know it all is silly, in my opinion.
Why would anyone, ie, Muslim or Jew or whatever hang onto 'their' belief system? Only?
You?
Miss Hepburn, I would have to totally agree with you on being open minded, regardless of what our religious or cultural belief may be it never hurts to learn about others. I am of the opinion that if we are open-minded enough to learn about other religions and cultures other than our own we can dispel fear and learn to respect each other and perhaps we can live in peace.
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Old 08-22-2019, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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I am still not sure what new ideas are you referring to or what exactly is it
that religious people are missing out on because they are not open to those supposedly "new ideas"?
Pretty much anything that is beyond or 'other than' their beliefs.
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Old 08-22-2019, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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Miss Hepburn, I would have to totally agree with you on being open minded, regardless of what our religious or cultural belief may be it never hurts to learn about others. I am of the opinion that if we are open-minded enough to learn about other religions and cultures other than our own we can dispel fear and learn to respect each other and perhaps we can live in peace.
Excellent.
See? That to me is a rational, mature, wise and diplomatic approach.
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Old 08-22-2019, 04:51 PM
 
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Default Fear, and fear alone, makes a person closed, not open to new ideas

I have to disagree. Fear operates on unenlightened minds. As our minor disagreement over ocean777's claims indicates, Miss H., you can have too open a mind such that your brain falls out!
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Old 08-22-2019, 04:57 PM
 
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What do you think?
I am open to so much. I have no illusions that I know everything.
What a wondrous exciting place this life is....to be closed and think you know it all is silly, in my opinion.
Why would anyone, ie, Muslim or Jew or whatever hang onto 'their' belief system? Only?
You?
open it up to everyone Miss H not just Muslims and Jews
surely you also include in your blanket condemnation statement of "closed and think you know it all"

Buddhists Pagans Hindus Sikh Catholic Protestant Amish Quakers Taoism Atheists Agnostics Wiccan Shinto Mormon

If you were truly "open to so much" you would be able to understand participating in a specific tradition. Without calling those who walk a path that is different than yours "closed and think you know it all"

what comes across loud and clear (yet again) is your sense of, well, superiority, and your condemnation of those who walk a different path.
it is not attractive.

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Old 08-22-2019, 05:18 PM
 
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Miss Hepburn, I would have to totally agree with you on being open minded, regardless of what our religious or cultural belief may be it never hurts to learn about others. I am of the opinion that if we are open-minded enough to learn about other religions and cultures other than our own we can dispel fear and learn to respect each other and perhaps we can live in peace.
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Old 08-22-2019, 05:23 PM
 
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Reload this Page Fear, and fear alone, makes a person closed, not open to new ideas

Quite likely. It is why we goddless bastards find such a fingers in ears response to any new Ideas we present (by 'we' I mean other atheist apologists).

There is nothing to fear from new Ideas. In fact a materialist science -based basis enables skeptics to consider new Ideas from a basis of what is new will be accepted when it is verified, explained and understood, because knowing that something is real doesn't tell us what it is or how it works.

It's the one thing thing Gandalf said that i disagree with "He who breaks a thing to find out what it is, had left the path of wisdom". I regret that it may be sad to damage or even destroy something to discover how it works and what it is ('Archaeology is destruction' has caused a bit of self -searching) but assuming that you know what a thing is by looking at it and guessing is nothing like wisdom and telling yourself that you guesses are true because of divine inspiration is not on the same planet as wisdom.

So the right balance is skeptical caution of new Ideas (or the claims made about them - eg. NDE's) while not being afraid of them. Though the Theist lobby would certainly claim that's what we were. Not that such was your intention for a moment, Miss H.

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I have to disagree. Fear operates on unenlightened minds. As our minor disagreement over ocean777's claims indicates, Miss H., you can have too open a mind such that your brain falls out!
We are all skeptics, Mystic, just as we are all atheists. It's just that some of us do not exclude the skepticism from one particular Pet belief.
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Old 08-22-2019, 05:42 PM
 
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Miss Hepburn, I would have to totally agree with you on being open minded, regardless of what our religious or cultural belief may be it never hurts to learn about others. I am of the opinion that if we are open-minded enough to learn about other religions and cultures other than our own we can dispel fear and learn to respect each other and perhaps we can live in peace.
well said ptsum
Miss H, may you one day do just that, learn to respect others.
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