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Old 08-25-2019, 11:04 AM
 
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As time passes a lot of this intolerance will just fade away. The younger generations are much more accepting and/or indifferent to the sexual preferences of others.



I don't agree with suing someone who is practicing their faith. Leave her alone. But where do we draw the line? Do we allow people with religious convictions to determine what is right and wrong for the rest of us?

Think of all the religions of the world and the examples become absurd.
The problem is that she had an obligation as a State employee and discriminated based on her faith.

 
Old 08-25-2019, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Western Washington
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I don't agree with suing someone who is practicing their faith. Leave her alone. But where do we draw the line? Do we allow people with religious convictions to determine what is right and wrong for the rest of us?
She isnít being sued for being a Christian. The legal issues involve her refusal as a public employee to issue marriage licenses, and her refusal to let others in her office issue them either. Her religious convictions inspired her to refuse to follow clearly stated laws and job requirements to the detriment of the general public.

I agree that you should not sue somebody for their religion. It would not be an actionable lawsuit the vast majority of the time. This case is very different.
 
Old 08-25-2019, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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As time passes a lot of this intolerance will just fade away. The younger generations are much more accepting and/or indifferent to the sexual preferences of others.



I don't agree with suing someone who is practicing their faith. Leave her alone. But where do we draw the line? Do we allow people with religious convictions to determine what is right and wrong for the rest of us?

Think of all the religions of the world and the examples become absurd.
I am not a great believer in suing people all the time.

But I actually think this is a worthy case:

1. She refused to do her job.
2. She refused to follow the law, despite repeated warnings.
3. She tried to circumvent the law, thus forcing her religion on others.

This is one of those extreme cases where people need to say that enough is enough.
 
Old 08-25-2019, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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I am not a great believer in suing people all the time.

But I actually think this is a worthy case:

1. She refused to do her job.
2. She refused to follow the law, despite repeated warnings.
3. She tried to circumvent the law, thus forcing her religion on others.

This is one of those extreme cases where people need to say that enough is enough.
In addition, she failed to uphold the law of the land. A law she swore on a Bible to uphold.
 
Old 08-25-2019, 04:51 PM
 
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I would hope that this is not acted upon as a compromise was reached - not justice, but mercy as they say. i hope that this will not be overturned by any taking out private cases.

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As time passes a lot of this intolerance will just fade away. The younger generations are much more accepting and/or indifferent to the sexual preferences of others.



I don't agree with suing someone who is practicing their faith. Leave her alone. But where do we draw the line? Do we allow people with religious convictions to determine what is right and wrong for the rest of us?

Think of all the religions of the world and the examples become absurd.
Agreed. The case was right to fight, but once the matter was..agreed, sorta...leave this one alone. She is now not blocking the law and the precedent has been established. Job done.
 
Old 08-25-2019, 05:38 PM
 
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Davis may have suffered enough for her stupidity and bigotry. I'd leave her be.

But svenM's idiotic blathering warrants reproof and correction.
Oh, I strenuously hope someone she wronged sues her.
 
Old 08-25-2019, 05:41 PM
 
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But thrice-divorced Kim Davis just wants to protect the sanctity of marriage!
 
Old 08-25-2019, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I would hope that this is not acted upon as a compromise was reached - not justice, but mercy as they say. i hope that this will not be overturned by any taking out private cases.



Agreed. The case was right to fight, but once the matter was..agreed, sorta...leave this one alone. She is now not blocking the law and the precedent has been established. Job done.
I don't agree. It is now not about her, but about setting an example.
 
Old 08-25-2019, 06:23 PM
 
Location: California
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Marriage is between man and woman
Nope. Try again.
 
Old 08-25-2019, 07:10 PM
 
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Marriage is between man and woman, why are homosexuals allowed to marry but not brother and sister, isn't this discrimination as well?

A homosexual man can marry a woman, so how is he discriminated? If he wants to marry no woman, this is his personal problem, why should a man marry a man?
You miss the point. People can hold any opinions and religious views they please; what they CAN'T DO is deny the legal rights of others in order to suit their own opinions/religious views. Kim Davis unlawfully violated the legal rights of some people legally applying for a marriage license. I hope every affected couple sues her.
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