Atheists Blast A.G. Barr’s Fact-Free Attack on Secularism (Buddha, church)

[PassTheChocolate]

“'To the contrary, as Attorney General, you no doubt know that according to data published by the FBI, the rate of violent crime in the United States has fallen by 49% since 1993. The timeline of this fall in violent crime correlates to the explosive growth of secularism in the United States.'

"Fish also cast doubt on the other groundless accusations leveled at the non-religious. Based on data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), there is “precisely zero correlation” between the religiosity of a state and its rate of overdose deaths. In addition, a 2016 study sponsored by the National Institutes of Health found that suicide attempts are more common among depressed patients with a religious affiliation."

https://www.atheists.org/2019/10/bar...aHBHB7FEc1e4d0

[Clintone]

Thanks

Even if religiosity were to reduce crime rates, suicide, and depression and such...there'd be a good chance it'd be mostly to do with the community atmosphere created by churchgoing rather than the religion itself anyway.

[2x3x29x41]

Originally Posted by PassTheChocolate

“'To the contrary, as Attorney General, you no doubt know that according to data published by the FBI, the rate of violent crime in the United States has fallen by 49% since 1993. The timeline of this fall in violent crime correlates to the explosive growth of secularism in the United States.'

"Fish also cast doubt on the other groundless accusations leveled at the non-religious. Based on data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), there is “precisely zero correlation” between the religiosity of a state and its rate of overdose deaths. In addition, a 2016 study sponsored by the National Institutes of Health found that suicide attempts are more common among depressed patients with a religious affiliation."

https://www.atheists.org/2019/10/bar...aHBHB7FEc1e4d0

Not only that, the Bible Belt has the highest violent crime rates of any region in the United States. That right there belies that nonsense that religion makes people more well-behaved.

[hljc]

Still if everyone were to obey the ten commandment that God gave Moses than there would be no need for locks on people home doors , and if God would have a eternal awakening for masses of people than the police would not have anything to do and the hospitals would be not busy .....

[BaptistFundie]

Sounds like a political issue. Or perhaps one for the atheist forum.

[rjshae]

Originally Posted by hljc

Still if everyone were to obey the ten commandment that God gave Moses than there would be no need for locks on people home doors , and if God would have a eternal awakening for masses of people than the police would not have anything to do and the hospitals would be not busy .....

Also true if everybody obeyed the ten non-commandments.

[cb2008]

Originally Posted by 2x3x29x41

Not only that, the Bible Belt has the highest violent crime rates of any region in the United States. That right there belies that nonsense that religion makes people more well-behaved.

Also high poverty. Religiosity somehow also breeds poverty. It may not be correlative.

[phetaroi]

Originally Posted by hljc

Still if everyone were to obey the ten commandment that God gave Moses than there would be no need for locks on people home doors , and if God would have a eternal awakening for masses of people than the police would not have anything to do and the hospitals would be not busy .....

Still if everyone were to obey the Five Precepts that Buddha gave all of us, then there would be no need for locks on people's door, and if people would act as suggested in the Tipitaka, then the police would not have anything to do and the hospitals would not be busy.

In other words, you don't have a monopoly on morality.

[Clintone]

Originally Posted by cb2008

Also high poverty. Religiosity somehow also breeds poverty. It may not be correlative.

I veer towards thinking poverty results in religiosity. If you have less goody-goodies, an afterlife full of the goody-goodies is probably going to be more appealing than if you already have more goody-goodies.

Also, I don't know how religion would create poverty...but that's just an assumption.

[cb2008]

Originally Posted by Clintone

I veer towards thinking poverty results in religiosity. If you have less goody-goodies, an afterlife full of the goody-goodies is probably going to be more appealing than if you already have more goody-goodies.

Also, I don't know how religion would create poverty...but that's just an assumption.

Most religious people are also less progressive in social issue such as women’s equality, equal pay, abortion.